One Should Be Required To Be An Organ Donor.

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(When a person is already deceased.) Why not save someones life if you possibly could? Seems incredibly selfish to say no. I don't think the government should even give its citizens a choice in the matter. Think of how many individuals died sitting on waiting lists because others weren't registered organ donors.

Specter87

16 Feb 2009 02:09

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The way i see it is that if the person is dead, they wont know if the organs are gone or not so why not just take them anyways?

JagBomb24

16 Mar 2009 00:18

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Which one? Certainly not everyone. But, I agree with your general idea. If one dies and has healthy organs that could ultimately save somebody's life, then yes they should be required to donate that organ.

SlyOne

16 Feb 2009 02:34

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I guess it goes against one's right to die with what "God" gave him, or some may think it is unethical to give body parts and organs away, or receive them. I think it's a religious thing.

I don't understand it, I would think any reasonable God would rather have someone live with new donated parts then die with the parts he gave him.

I am not an organ donor because I was afraid they would take out my organs before I die. I heard that had happened before.

Aren't I a selfish greedy one.

verum

16 Feb 2009 02:15

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Hootan Roozrokh, MD, of California has been charged with prescribing excessive doses of morphine and sedatives to hasten the death of a man with adrenal leukodystrophy and irreversible brain damage, in order to procure his organs for transplant. The case being brought against Roozrokh is the first such case in the US.

It probably happens, but I'm guessing it is in the cases where the individual is going to inevitably die anyway. Also some organs must be taken while the individual is still "beating" or close too.

Specter87

16 Feb 2009 02:26

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What if people are on medication (e.g. Steriods for medical purposes) all of there life and when they come to die, there organs cannot be donated.

Lynchee

15 Jul 2009 21:01

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You comment is equivalent to saying,"What if the person has a bum body part?" Obviously the simplest was to solve that would be to make this individual or individual's body part an exception to donation.

Specter87

15 Jul 2009 22:53

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I think it'd be nice if everyone did, but not from obligation, and I certainly don't think it should be made compulsory. There are religious grounds that this would go against, and it'd take away people's right to choose. And what right would the government have over individuals dead bodies? Surely if it wasn't up to the person in question, it'd be up to their closest relative/friend instead? Yes, it may seem selfish if people don't donate their organs, but they'll probably have their own reasoning behind it.
Also, I doubt everyone has healthy enough organs to donate to others.

MaYbCaKe

23 Feb 2009 13:08

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I'd have to be sure i am deceased to fill out the form.;-/)

keepmindok

23 Feb 2009 07:00

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I'm donating my brain to Rodney and my heart to godfighter.

justsumguy

16 Feb 2009 03:33

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Even if the transplant is not successful, they are still better off..

Haha, just joking of course..

verum

16 Feb 2009 03:36

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NO WAY!!! When I got my driver license and I was deliberating over whether to say yes or no to being an organ donor, the attendant at the DMV window where I was filling out the form said, "Don't say yes. The doctors do not always take organs from dead people."

tinseldove

16 Feb 2009 03:20

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I guess I was right to be skeptical, also... But tell me this, how does the "DMV" clerk have so much insight about this?

verum

16 Feb 2009 03:24

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Although I respect your desire to help save lives through organ donation I don't think it's fair or simple to mandate donation. Consider these complications: 1) Religious objection, 2) Private knowledge you engaged in a risky behavior which might unintentionally hurt an organ recipient, 3) Alternative bequeths of the body - like giving it to a medical school for training, or to that artist who plasticizes the tissues to make art, 4) A desire to be intact for viewing by your children, etc. Or 5) Some individual literally hate society and most other people, how can you make them give their tissues to the object of their scorn?

Grenache

16 Feb 2009 03:20

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Religious objection, can you elaborate? Is their really any rationality to a religious view that stresses the importance to keep someone's organs after death. Do dead people really have rights, if the do what for?

If your dead, you absolutely don't need your organs. What is the difference if it's used for another or art? Or perhaps can we make these organs that are taken for transplant purposes only.

I think you will be intact regardless of which organ you donate, there are no brain transplants, so they would not need to cut your face. Clothing covers any body scars.

If someone hates society, why not just take their organs to spite them. I am actually serious about this, one who is so inconsiderate to our society, and purposely wants to continue harm to others (like to people in desperate need of an organ transplant), why should we respect their rights, even after their dead.

verum

16 Feb 2009 03:32

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Of course there isn't a rational reason for religion to object to organ donation, but what about religion IS rational?  Don't you think parents who object to their kid getting medicine or surgery due to the religious belief their illness is God's will would also then object after death to their kid being carved up?  They'll quote some dust to dust passage and insist it's an offense to God to take the organ.  Now I don't say this because I agree with their beliefs, I say it because I'm certain they would object harshly to the suggestion the choice be taken away from them and the organ donation be forced.

The medical research or art point we pretty much agree on, the point is they're being reused in some way.

And yeah, you're probably right the organ donation wouldn't disrupt having an open casket.

The last paragraph is pretty much the "I just don't want to, to hell with all of you" response to donation.  Although your point of spiting them is kind of fun the truth is it's a free society and people fight hard for their right to eat transfatting fast foods or to smoke, so if we're going to be draconian about taking their organs after death then it's a slippery slope scenario to forcing other choices on them too, contrary to a free society.

Good responses though, I enjoyed them.

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I agree with Grenache.  I think that efforts to educate people about organ donation is a wonderful idea, however I can't imagine ever telling someone that they must donate their loved one's organs.  I do not think that anyone has addressed the problem this may create for the families of the deceased.  Some people do not believe in organ donation.  I do not know the reasoning behind that belief system, but I think that when one loses a loved one, the last thing they need is to have to fight for the loved one to be permitted to be allowed to retain their internal organs, or rather not to have them donated.  As verum pointed out, many are removed in the embalming process.  Further, if there is an autopsy, I believe that all organs are removed, or accessed for analysis.

verum, I realize that brains are not used for transplantation.  To access the brain, which is done in autopsy, a cut is made in the hairline and not on the face.  The family is still able to view their loved ones after an autopsy where the brain was, in fact removed for examination.  As for the rest of the body, they make a Y incision from the chest down.  The body is respected and is suitable for viewing.  It is a very difficult thing for many people to think about regarding their loved ones.  My mother still has a difficult time because she agreed to her mother having an autopsy and she feels like it was some sort of a violation.  Of course, it wasn't.  The thing is that, when someone dies, I can see that one would feel that they should have to donate their organs.  I just think it is shortsighted to forget that it is ultimately up to the family.  In times of grief, we do not always make the decisions that we would make if our minds were not clouded.  If it were mandatory to donate organs, the people left behind are the ones that would suffer if they had a belief system that prohibited the dontation of organs.  It may not only be their belief system, they may simply be uneducated as to the process of how organs are harvested and, thus, not feel comfortable or at ease with someone performing the procedure/s on their loved one.

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Hell no. I was raised Jewish and you can't be buried in a Jewish burial ground if you are an organ donor or have tattoos.

Now I'm not Jewish, I have tattoos, and I am an organ donor, but it would kill my mother to know that her body would be raped of its organs after her death which would mean she couldn't be buried in the holy ground she wants to rest for eternity in.

lolkat

16 Feb 2009 02:47

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Must vary in each Jewish region or community.

Specter87

16 Feb 2009 02:55

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