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You know what you friggen religious idiots are so blind, has there ever been a description of god,
did you know that we can disprove your almighty bible by just saying that the new testament is made
up full of stories from past bibles and since the old testament is gone how can you really be sure
of anything, there is not just one bible, there have been hundreds along the way of mankind, now do
you have anything to say as an argument |
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Give it up. You know you can. |
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I am not actually blaming "God" here, more mans blind faith in him.
Faith allows excuses for everything, instead of forcing mankind to look at the problems within it.
Facing up to reality.
Imagine there's no heaven.
It's a comfort blanket, and a dangerous one. If you allowed a child to carry it's comfort blanket
into adulthood, we would have a lot of childish adults.
God allows you to turn a blind eye to reality. Prevents men from growing into anything other than
children.
Religion totally confuses me. It teaches us, or at least should, to be better human beings. But it
doesn't work that way for everbody. It makes some worse. Self righteous and blinkered.
I'm just popping a debate out here.
Possibly Athiests have a firmer grip on the real problems of this world than the religious do. |
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God created humanity so why would we give up on the creator. Even though some women God shouldhave
not made but I can't write off all women cause of the acts of a few. To improve humanity Why don't
we go back to God? |
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You don't have to do anything. |
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You will go to hell if you don't open your eyes and realize where humanity came from |
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Not. This is like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. No answer. |
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Man has been trying for 6000 years to make this world perfect. God has not been trying to do that.
Therefore, i have no faith in our ability to do it alone. |
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God gave us free will so we could choose to love and be in relationship with Him. He would get no
satisfaction from robots which is what we would be if we had no free will. All this mess on earth
is from our using our free will the wrong way. Don't blame God. He doesn't want this, but he won't
violate our free will because he is seeking our company and relationship. He loves us, he keeps on
loving us in spite of it all. When are we going to wake up, soften our hearts and love Him and each
other back. |
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You need to improve yourself if you want to improve,
So just start with you, say how you are so good and maybe we will follow or disagree;-))
Start with I am and take it from there. O.K. |
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So if we stop believing in God our problems will all go away? I think more problems would arise as a
result. Lets say everyone believes in this life and this life alone. Do you think people will be as
laid back? I personally think people would become more selfish and think moreso in their own self
interest. If I am going to die and this is the only existince I have I will party all day everyday.
If I tell you you can ONLY watch TV on July 27, what will you be doing during that time frame? You
will be TVing it up. Now imagine if I told you you were only going to LIVE for 80 years? You would
most likely be living it up. |
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Look I don’t particularly believe in god. So for the sake of argument let’s assume I’m right
for a moment. That means it can’t be gods fault since there is no god and the problems with
religion are problems with people. Or put another way it was Abrahams fault for being willing to
kill his own child to appease the voices in his head and his followers fault for accepting the
leadership of an insane person.
On the other hand let us assume there is a god. Do you really believe that an all powerful being
would need us to persecute non believers if that was really the goal, or is that more likely to be
us failing to resist our own worst instincts and using god as an excuse. Either way this is not
god’s mess but our own. |
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It's not belief in God which is the problem with religion, it's people who try to force their
beliefs onto others whether it be through warfare, legislation, mandatory classes, whatever. In the
purest sense the vast majority of religious beliefs boil down to being good to each other - and who
could argue with that? But I share your skepticism or anger with the hyper-religious who breathe
deep the crazy fumes of zealotry and want to punish those who don't join them.
I saw "Religulous" - the pseudo-documentary pointing out the folly in many world religions and
their leaders. Good movie. At the end they say all religion needs to be abandoned before we blow
ourselves up. I still disagree. We need to embrace the good which comes from religion and speak
out against the more extremists. Ultimately it's the masses of people who really hold the power in
any church no matter what a handful of holy rollers at the top think. |
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I'm a firm atheist but there is such a thing as freedom of religion and freedom to express it. It
maybe nonsence to you and me but people believe it and that is there right to believe in god.
But if there was a divine invisible being in the sky looking down on us it would be people that are
making the mess. If there was any truth in the the belief then one must believe that we have free
will, no interference from this being so therefore it would be people who are making the mess not
him.
But from my purely atheist point of view there is no God there so blaming him is completely
pointless and people should take responisibilities for their own actions. |
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You gotta get rid of the hate, and keep the love.
And hell as long as it's love, it can be as tough as it wants.
Just BEZ and get along with people, work with 'em because you never know what they have to offer, or
can offer.
You ain't gotta like 'em, but respect them. |
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I don’t believe a god has anything to do with the problems in this world, or the solutions to
them. So, naturally, I would disagree with this debate. |
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First of all, you do need to improve your writing skills so that people can "get" what you are
trying to say without re-reading your argument several times. Secondly, God has nothing to do with
the way we, as human beings, have messed up the country/world. If you could expand your mind for
just a moment, you would realize that we were created and given FREE will. If we choose to make the
wrong decisions, we suffer the consequences. God does not make our choices for us. If any
politician, who is a human being...not sure what you were saying with that part of your
statement...could "fix" our country in one term, it would be nothing short of an act of God. One of
the fundamental problems in our society is a lack of faith in a higher power. Most people are
driven by greed and selfish motives to further their own agenda.
This country was founded on religious freedom because of a deep faith in God. Is it a coincidence
that we have been blessed to be a superpower? We have many problems, that is true, but we are a
strong nation. That will not go on forever. If we continue to take God out of everything in this
country, we will become a weak nation. People need a moral code of ethics to follow. If you and
others want to believe there is no God, I am not here to convince you otherwise. I am simply saying
that belief in God or other omnipotent and loving creator is not to blame for any issue affecting
our country. It is ignorant people who have damaged society. If you prefer to live in a society
not founded out of a love of God, perhaps you should find yourself a different country and take up
residence there. I would suggest that you make an effort to make better use of their language than
you have or ours though. Study, increase your vocabulary, take an English course and maybe you can
state your opinion in a way that has a shred of influence on others. |
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16 Nov 2008 03:01
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