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We aren't judging the person only the action. The bible says love the sinner but hate the sin. The
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Yes, they are. Their religion tells them that they are right and everyone else is wrong so they
start to judge people based on their own moral values. Even religions that tell people not to be
judgemental end up causing it. |
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Easy to judge when you believe you're going to heaven and those who disagree with you are going to
hell.... |
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"With god in the hole, you're a righteous soul"... It's hard not to feel superior when the most
powerful being in the universe is telling you what to say. |
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I'm afraid I agree with a great sadness. It is ironic that some of those who are supposed to follow
the morals and values of Christianity such as "love thy neighbour" are often the most hateful people
who preach the wrong messages and basically give Christians a bad name. |
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That is usual. |
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I had to give this idea some thought before posting. After a decent amount of brainstorming, I came
to the conclusion to place my post on this side of the debate. As it comes to my attention, some of
the most judgmental people I’ve encountered within my lifetime have been associated with some sort
of religious affiliation. Although there are many with no relation to religious philosophies that
are just as judgmental, I must say that those who are tied to certain religions can be some of the
worst when it comes to criticizing others about their beliefs, at least the ones I've encountered
within my life. |
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Read a world history book and tell me that millions weren't killed do to a belief that one group or
other belief were insuperior immoral or wrong. |
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Unfortunately, this is often true. People of faith ought to be walking adverts for their faith.
Through the contentment they clearly feel, and the serenity and peacefulness they project around
them, the curiosity of others who encounter them ought to be piqued by the system of superstition
which has brought that about. I've met a few people like that, deeply religious people who made
everyone around them feel good. Unfortunately, I can count those people on the fingers of one hand.
The opposite experience is more often encountered.
I'm not sure whether this is peculiarly an American phenomenon. I can't really think of European
equivalents of Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell et al. Certainly, when an atheist considers such people,
he is repelled by religion rather than attracted to it. |
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Yes I have also witnessed this...It also happened to me..it does seem that most judgemental people
are the ones who attend church and everything but I used to think it was because they had higher
standards that was until I saw that they were mostly all hypocrites doing the same things I was |
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It is very simple, most religious people are complete hypocrites. Religion is a group identity,
that is the more people that believe what you believe the more correct your stance appears. It is
basic group think. As you have probably realized, someone does not need religion to lead a
honorable life. Even if I tell someone who is fervently religious; that in my life I have tried to
do the most conscious good and the least conscious evil it will not be enough. It is the ritual and
the wrote that makes a religious person feel like they are doing something that is greater than
themselves, but the truly enlightened know that IF there is a greater force than humans, drinking
wine and eating a wafer has nothing to do with their individual relationship with this greater
power. |
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The most judgemental, as well as the most hypocritical, are the atheists who are lightening-quick to
judge Christians by standards that they as atheists don't even remotely come close to sort of living
up to, nor even aspire to. |
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While I agree that most of them can be very judgmental, there isn't any basis for this argument.
Some people are more judgmental than others (regardless of religious practice or belief). |
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That is a generalization. Not all churchgoers are judgemental. |
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Judgemental people can be found everywhere, not just in the church...but I can't deny your
statement, either. Church-goers are raised to believe what is right and what is wrong, so it's only
fair to expect them to judge others for what they think they are or are not doing. God tells us to
spread his word, and I think people are doing it wrong or misinterpreting it...
Point is: I judge, you judge, we all judge. It can't be avoided. |
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This whole debate is judgemental, need I say more..... |
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I don't think so. I see lots of judgemental people everywhere. Atheists who think Christians are
stupid, and primitive, and Christians that think even their fellow church goers are not doing it
their way so they are going to hell. I think that it is our nature to judge those who are different
than we. We judge out of a defence of who we are, which is more about fear. It is really
irritating when someone is holier than thou, but i don't see that so much anymore. |
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Bull, ppl who have faith still respect ppl like you. You probably just met the few who didnt.
Everyone believes different therefore everyone judges |
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NO in church we focus on not being judgemental ..... I don't know what church your parents took you
to but you are very wrong |
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I don't think that religion plays any part in people being judgemental. There are many people on
this site that are very religious and very judgemental. Ignorant in fact. But their ignorance and
judgemental nature is irrespective of their religion not because of it. If they had been brought up
without god they would be just as bad. It just so happens that they use god and the bible as a
guise when spouting their judgemental tripe. We shouldn't let that cloud our judgement. It should
however be of concern to the Christian world that so many of them are tarnishing decent
Christians.
Many ignorant idiots that live locally to me have no dealings with a religion. They are judgemental
because they are idiots just the same.
By the way we are all judgemental to some degree, it is not always such a bad thing in context. The
debate itself is a bit judgemental. |
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We must always judge things and at times people, because we are constantly making decisions about
right and wrong to get along in life. Even the proposition: The Most Judgemental People are Those
Who Believe in God and Attend Church; reeks of judgementalism. After all, the meaning behind the
statement is that it is wrong to be judgemental. Very few debaters would say the statement is true
and Believers and Church Attendees should be proud of their judgementalism. No, the message is that
judgementalism is bad, and those who are judgemental are bad. So, in other words, being non
judgemental and condemning judgementalism, is really being quite judgemental itself. The
proposition is self-refuting. |
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I think that this is a false stereotype. Perhaps this was true in the Victorian era, but thankfully
we are beyond this now. Church-goers are no more inclined to be judgemental than those who decide
not to attend church. In the past, many Christians may have seen attending church on Sundays as the
"right" and "good" thing to do, whereas not going was frowned upon. This meant that many of the
people who attended church did so out of convention, rather than out of conviction. I agree that
those who spent mass or service scanning the pews and keeping tabs on who was there and who stayed
at home were clearly judgemental.
In western secular societies, adults who attend church do so because they want to. It's their
conscious decision to get up on a Sunday morning and attend. Since church attendance is no longer
considered to be a social convention, nor is it the mark of "good people," you're usually only there
if you really want to be there. I think that most of us realize that this is a personal choice, and
there is nothing inherently wrong with those who choose not to come. |
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Honestly speaking, there are judgemental Christians out there and they are wrong in what they are
doing because it says in the Bible that judging is not our job, because one day Christ is going to
judge those at the Great White Throne Judgement, and not all Christians are judgemental!!!!! How
Christians need to think is, "i should be saving these lost souls instead of judging them!!!" but
like i said, not all Christians are judgemental, also i know many people who are not Christian and
they do not attend church and they are very judgemental and i seem to see more of them then
judgemental Christians!!!! |
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27 Mar 2008 16:40
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