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Why Do People Complaint About Objectification Of Any Gender In Videogames? Seriously?
Objectification is a tricky and, obviously, subjective and polemical issue. Objectification is the process of turning a person into an item, sometimes for sexual reasons. Although this is kind of awkward, because characters in videogames are not people, and thus cannot be objectified in the same qualitative notion that is suggested by the term. (Read my text in "im for it" to see why)
 Diablus-X  06 Dec 2017 08:44
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Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; thank you for giving me another opportunity to tell the world what a worthless piece of shiite you and your lowlife, unregenerate, reprobate friends are!

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends wouldn't be reading this if you didn't respond to me or make debates that referenced me!

You can send John Jay Jaster a personal email at john_jaster@yahoo.com or you can contact John Jay Jaster at work through the Human Resources Department at john.jaster@sanofi-aventis.com

If you are in the Boston area, you can see John Jay Jaster at work by stopping at Sanofi-Aventis which is located at 270 Albany St, Cambridge, Massachusetts. John Jaster’s phone number at work is 617-679-5600.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; without any justification, you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends have called me a bunch of smear names such as; racist, homophobic, sexist, fascist, hateful, intolerant, mean-spirited, divisive, inflexible, bigoted, idiot, moron, etc., that the Liberals love to use when they have lost the debate.

Meanwhile, I have only spoken the truth about you when I say that your are an adulterer, a reprobate, and have no absolutes or principles in your life.

All of you worthless, lowlife reprobates voted TWO TIMES for Bathhouse Barry Obozo so it's no mystery that you would have friends who are worthless, lowlife reprobates.

You have more in common with a porn addicted, spouse-swapping, fat lesbian like Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn and her fat, clown faced, "really good friend" Damselfly aka Joanna.

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn sent me a picture of herself in a blue dress that looked like someone tried to stuff 300 pounds of shiite in a 200 pound blue sack. Gross, really gross!!!

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn, your lover, Moreno Cubanito, needs you to save his failing YickYak website!!!

You always say that your husband, Michael Horn the runt, doesn't mind sharing you with other guys and gals. You always say that you and the runt enjoy watching porn, have an "open marriage," and that he encourages spouse-swapping and your bisexuality because that doubles his chances for some extra action.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn said you committed adultery by boinking her fat, married, "really good friend", Damselfly aka Joanna when she visited America.

Since you have so much in common with those two worthless, lowlife reprobates, I cannot understand why any of you worthless, lowlife reprobates would waste your time talking to me.

God weeps for all worthless, lowlife reprobates who will not turn from their sin.

Jeremiah 13:17
17. But if you will not hear it, my soul will weep in secret for your pride; my eyes will weep bitterly and run down with tears,

As a Christian, I am under no obligation to present the gospel to reprobates who will just make fun of the gospel. A Christian should not give what is holy to those who do not appreciate it. Animals such as dogs and hogs cannot appreciate the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 7:6
6. "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

All of us are sinners to one degree or another and all of us have a daily battle with the temptation to sin. Some people have an almost irresistible desire to steal things. Psychiatrists call these people “kleptomaniacs” but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Some people are genetically or psychologically predisposed to be addicted to alcohol or drugs and, in order to quit, sometimes they have to be hospitalized and endure terrible withdrawal symptoms, but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Sexual orientation and acts of perversion cannot be conflated with a race of people created by the Lord. In Jeremiah 13:23, the question is asked: "Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?" Of course, the answer is no. Just by an act of their free will, no one is able to change the color of their skin but every year thousands and thousands of homosexuals use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. In short, genetics loads the gun but free will pulls the trigger. Sodomites, Sodomettes, pedophiles, and bestialists have to continually use their free will to say no to their sin just like everyone else. When you say no to sin – any sin – and keep saying no without giving in to the temptation, you build up spiritual muscle and the temptation to sin becomes less and less.

1 Corinthians 6:9
9. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators (Greek – pornos – general sexual sin), nor idolaters, nor adulterers (Greek – moichos – sexual intercourse between someone who is married and someone to whom that that person is not married), nor homosexuals (Greek – malakos – efffeminate, a passive partner, a male prostitute, a soft one, a boy or an adult male), nor Sodomites (Greek – arsenokoites – males who defile themselves with other men, an active partner, a male who has sex with an efffeminate male),
10. Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
18. Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
 
 AR454  06 Dec 2017 12:27
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 Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; thank you for giving me another opportunity to tell the world what a worthless piece of shiite you and your lowlife, unregenerate, reprobate friends are!

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends wouldn't be reading this if you didn't respond to me or make debates that referenced me!

You can send John Jay Jaster a personal email at john_jaster@yahoo.com or you can contact John Jay Jaster at work through the Human Resources Department at john.jaster@sanofi-aventis.com

If you are in the Boston area, you can see John Jay Jaster at work by stopping at Sanofi-Aventis which is located at 270 Albany St, Cambridge, Massachusetts. John Jaster’s phone number at work is 617-679-5600.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; without any justification, you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends have called me a bunch of smear names such as; racist, homophobic, sexist, fascist, hateful, intolerant, mean-spirited, divisive, inflexible, bigoted, idiot, moron, etc., that the Liberals love to use when they have lost the debate.

Meanwhile, I have only spoken the truth about you when I say that your are an adulterer, a reprobate, and have no absolutes or principles in your life.

All of you worthless, lowlife reprobates voted TWO TIMES for Bathhouse Barry Obozo so it's no mystery that you would have friends who are worthless, lowlife reprobates.

You have more in common with a porn addicted, spouse-swapping, fat lesbian like Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn and her fat, clown faced, "really good friend" Damselfly aka Joanna.

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn sent me a picture of herself in a blue dress that looked like someone tried to stuff 300 pounds of shiite in a 200 pound blue sack. Gross, really gross!!!

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn, your lover, Moreno Cubanito, needs you to save his failing YickYak website!!!

You always say that your husband, Michael Horn the runt, doesn't mind sharing you with other guys and gals. You always say that you and the runt enjoy watching porn, have an "open marriage," and that he encourages spouse-swapping and your bisexuality because that doubles his chances for some extra action.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn said you committed adultery by boinking her fat, married, "really good friend", Damselfly aka Joanna when she visited America.

Since you have so much in common with those two worthless, lowlife reprobates, I cannot understand why any of you worthless, lowlife reprobates would waste your time talking to me.

God weeps for all worthless, lowlife reprobates who will not turn from their sin.

Jeremiah 13:17
17. But if you will not hear it, my soul will weep in secret for your pride; my eyes will weep bitterly and run down with tears,

As a Christian, I am under no obligation to present the gospel to reprobates who will just make fun of the gospel. A Christian should not give what is holy to those who do not appreciate it. Animals such as dogs and hogs cannot appreciate the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 7:6
6. "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

All of us are sinners to one degree or another and all of us have a daily battle with the temptation to sin. Some people have an almost irresistible desire to steal things. Psychiatrists call these people “kleptomaniacs” but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Some people are genetically or psychologically predisposed to be addicted to alcohol or drugs and, in order to quit, sometimes they have to be hospitalized and endure terrible withdrawal symptoms, but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Sexual orientation and acts of perversion cannot be conflated with a race of people created by the Lord. In Jeremiah 13:23, the question is asked: "Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?" Of course, the answer is no. Just by an act of their free will, no one is able to change the color of their skin but every year thousands and thousands of homosexuals use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. In short, genetics loads the gun but free will pulls the trigger. Sodomites, Sodomettes, pedophiles, and bestialists have to continually use their free will to say no to their sin just like everyone else. When you say no to sin – any sin – and keep saying no without giving in to the temptation, you build up spiritual muscle and the temptation to sin becomes less and less.

1 Corinthians 6:9
9. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators (Greek – pornos – general sexual sin), nor idolaters, nor adulterers (Greek – moichos – sexual intercourse between someone who is married and someone to whom that that person is not married), nor homosexuals (Greek – malakos – efffeminate, a passive partner, a male prostitute, a soft one, a boy or an adult male), nor Sodomites (Greek – arsenokoites – males who defile themselves with other men, an active partner, a male who has sex with an efffeminate male),
10. nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
18. Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
by  AR454
 06 Dec 2017 12:27
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Objectification is a tricky and, obviously, subjective and polemical issue. Objectification is the process of turning a person into an item, sometimes for sexual reasons. Although this is kind of awkward, because characters in videogames are not people, and thus cannot be objectified in the same qualitative notion that is suggested by the term. Under the definition of objectification, all main characters are objectified as being acted upon by the player with a controller. Another issue comes from sexual objectification in specific. So long as one does not believe there is anything wrong with the portrayal of the human body (which is why these games are rated M, so kids do not play) why would anyone have an issue with scantily clad characters? Since we are talking about videogames in particular, these characters exist in a fantasy realm that is not meant to simulate reality, and is actually meant as an escape from reality. So in a fantasy realm of people with superpowers, heightened abilities, or huge technological advancements, one would not expect such characters to conform to the notion of reality, especially when it comes to their portrayal as human beings. And to top it all off, objectification is not necessarily an issue of gender, many male and female characters have been seen as stark naked (Raiden from Metal Gear Solid 2, Dante from the new DMC and Sherry from Resident Evil 6), overtly muscular (Flay from Mana Khemia and Barret from Final Fantasy 7, even some male characters in SF franchise and Jherii Gallo from dead rising), have ab windows (Gunvolt, Tales of the Abyss, ), or have overtly tight clothing (Duke Nukem and Nina and Hwoarang from Tekken) and half naked (which is r.mika's case, even chun-li, cammy, poison and some mortal kombat female characters such as mileena, kitana and so on) and massive breasts (r.mika and laura from street fighter and Kira from Mortal Kombat Deception/unchained). How one may say that these artists did not do this explicitly as objectification, but even so, it is the same result, despite the reasoning behind it. Which means that although many female characters are "objectified" under the loose definition placed with the word, many male characters are too under the same definition. But does it matter? In my opinion, no. Because just as games are not known to cause violence, there is no evidence that videogames cause sexism, or issues in self esteem. Videogame characters live in a fantasy world that does not, and should not, simulate our own reality. Besides, there is nothing wrong with the human body, and if the game creator wants to make a game with stark naked characters, that"s their call as game creators, and if not, than so be it. It"s not up to us as consumers of the media to force game creators to conform to our liking, it is our duty as individuals to decide whether or not we like a game, and rate it like that, or refuse to purchase it altogether. The human body is not a bad thing, so let"s not treat it as such, even if it has enhanced features. Remember, this medium is supposed to allow us to escape reality and live in a fantasy world, not the other way around.
 
 Diablus-X  06 Dec 2017 08:48
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 Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; thank you for giving me another opportunity to tell the world what a worthless piece of shiite you and your lowlife, unregenerate, reprobate friends are!

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends wouldn't be reading this if you didn't respond to me or make debates that referenced me!

You can send John Jay Jaster a personal email at john_jaster@yahoo.com or you can contact John Jay Jaster at work through the Human Resources Department at john.jaster@sanofi-aventis.com

If you are in the Boston area, you can see John Jay Jaster at work by stopping at Sanofi-Aventis which is located at 270 Albany St, Cambridge, Massachusetts. John Jaster’s phone number at work is 617-679-5600.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; without any justification, you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends have called me a bunch of smear names such as; racist, homophobic, sexist, fascist, hateful, intolerant, mean-spirited, divisive, inflexible, bigoted, idiot, moron, etc., that the Liberals love to use when they have lost the debate.

Meanwhile, I have only spoken the truth about you when I say that your are an adulterer, a reprobate, and have no absolutes or principles in your life.

All of you worthless, lowlife reprobates voted TWO TIMES for Bathhouse Barry Obozo so it's no mystery that you would have friends who are worthless, lowlife reprobates.

You have more in common with a porn addicted, spouse-swapping, fat lesbian like Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn and her fat, clown faced, "really good friend" Damselfly aka Joanna.

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn sent me a picture of herself in a blue dress that looked like someone tried to stuff 300 pounds of shiite in a 200 pound blue sack. Gross, really gross!!!

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn, your lover, Moreno Cubanito, needs you to save his failing YickYak website!!!

You always say that your husband, Michael Horn the runt, doesn't mind sharing you with other guys and gals. You always say that you and the runt enjoy watching porn, have an "open marriage," and that he encourages spouse-swapping and your bisexuality because that doubles his chances for some extra action.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn said you committed adultery by boinking her fat, married, "really good friend", Damselfly aka Joanna when she visited America.

Since you have so much in common with those two worthless, lowlife reprobates, I cannot understand why any of you worthless, lowlife reprobates would waste your time talking to me.

God weeps for all worthless, lowlife reprobates who will not turn from their sin.

Jeremiah 13:17
17. But if you will not hear it, my soul will weep in secret for your pride; my eyes will weep bitterly and run down with tears,

As a Christian, I am under no obligation to present the gospel to reprobates who will just make fun of the gospel. A Christian should not give what is holy to those who do not appreciate it. Animals such as dogs and hogs cannot appreciate the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 7:6
6. "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

All of us are sinners to one degree or another and all of us have a daily battle with the temptation to sin. Some people have an almost irresistible desire to steal things. Psychiatrists call these people “kleptomaniacs” but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Some people are genetically or psychologically predisposed to be addicted to alcohol or drugs and, in order to quit, sometimes they have to be hospitalized and endure terrible withdrawal symptoms, but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Sexual orientation and acts of perversion cannot be conflated with a race of people created by the Lord. In Jeremiah 13:23, the question is asked: "Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?" Of course, the answer is no. Just by an act of their free will, no one is able to change the color of their skin but every year thousands and thousands of homosexuals use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. In short, genetics loads the gun but free will pulls the trigger. Sodomites, Sodomettes, pedophiles, and bestialists have to continually use their free will to say no to their sin just like everyone else. When you say no to sin – any sin – and keep saying no without giving in to the temptation, you build up spiritual muscle and the temptation to sin becomes less and less.

1 Corinthians 6:9
9. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators (Greek – pornos – general sexual sin), nor idolaters, nor adulterers (Greek – moichos – sexual intercourse between someone who is married and someone to whom that that person is not married), nor homosexuals (Greek – malakos – efffeminate, a passive partner, a male prostitute, a soft one, a boy or an adult male), nor Sodomites (Greek – arsenokoites – males who defile themselves with other men, an active partner, a male who has sex with an efffeminate male),
10. nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
18. Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
by  AR454
 06 Dec 2017 12:27
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