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Yes, it is not only offensive to atheists to be forced to say it, but to any other religion because
when the term is used is means the Christian gods, muslims should be allowed to say allah.
Hindus have many gods,
and atheists do not believe at all, why can we not be under the government instead of a deity |
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Being a Christian myself I have to say I don't understand why the super Christians have to live in a
world where everyone follows their belief. Let those that don't believe live their life and stop
forcing them to believe your ideas. You say if they don't like it they don't have to say it but
what about those people that believe in the USA but not GOD going to do? |
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It wasn't originally in the Constitution
Separation of Church and State.
Not everyone's a Christian.
It encourages the belief among Christians in middle and high school that everyone follows an
Abrahamic religion at the least, or are Christian, which leads to discrimination and division (I've
been told at the least ten times by a teenager that I'm going to burn a hell because I don't believe
in their God) If it wasn't so ingrained in American society and especially schools that the
Christian way is the right and only way, then we wouldn't have so much religious discrimination and
misunderstanding imo. |
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I feel very strongly about this issue, as an atheist.
In California, an atheist filed a suit about the Pledge’s “under God,” and after years of
legal wrangling up to the highest court level, it is still unresolved. I believe the argument was
that since children in California are only required to stand for, but not actually recite, the
Pledge, the atheist’s daughter was protected.
Let us remember that the offending words in the Pledge did not come into usage until the 1950s. It
was not drafted by the Founding Fathers, so does not reflect this nation’s establishing
principles.
The Pledge should be entirely secular. How “God” ever sneaked by the Supreme Court of the time
baffles me.
And while we’re at it, let’s get rid of the opening prayers for Congressional sessions. Even
though the current fad is to have non-Christians deliver them, it is still a violation of church and
state. |
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Agreed i mean i sometimes i believe in god and sometimes i don't but surely not everyone does so
lets just spread the peace by taking that off |
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The whole concept of a Pledge of Allegiance is abhorrent. If it's going to exist at all, it should
be something that unifies rather than divides. Since many people don't accept the existence of
invisible, magical beings, placing explicit references to them in the terms of the pledge would be
unwise. Since the US constitution also prohibits any "establishment of religion", it would seem to
constitute an instance of the government unfairly endorsing a magical belief system and therefore be
illegal. |
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I suppose I agree with this side of the debate. A god is not essential to everyone’s life.
Therefore, speaking of one within the United State’s Pledge of Allegiance could be considered
offensive to some people. However, no one can be forced to say the pledge. But then again, I suppose
those who would like to, yet don’t want to feel as if they are idolizing a god should be able to
do so. |
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Since not everyone believes in god, it should be removed. It could be deemed offensive to some
people. |
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Absolutely. It was only added to the pledge in the 1950s during the McCarthy era in the ridiculous
belief that the "evil godless commies" couldn't say the pledge because of it. We are a secular
society living in a country with freedom of religion and a government forbidden to support one
religion over any other and our pledge of allegiance violates everything that our Constitution
demands.
Time to get rid of it and return the pledge to what it originally was. |
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NO! God is god is god. No matter what religion there is still a god, no matter what it translated
to.
For those who are offended, just substitute your own gods name instead of saying god or not say that
part at all. Simple as pre-made pie |
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Never.
God, was and is the only portion of the American ideal worth upholding, and to Whom we owe our
everything, including, our allegiance.
God, is America's King. |
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What does it do to affect you ? Nothing so what is the point of going through a big hassle just to
get rid off two words. They is no point. |
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No because I think the time would be better spent focusing on an issue that matters. People who
fight words are just wasting their efforts. |
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I dont think it should be removed just because someone thinks its offending them in any way no ones
forced to say the pledge of allegiance so if you dont like it then dont use it or say it because you
DONT HAVE TO . |
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I think we should appreciate what it must mean for a country that believes in freedom of religion to
still invoke "under god" in its creed. Not under Christianity, not under Jesus, not under
Washington, not under Freedom, not under George III, not under its own citizens even but rather
under GOD. But in retrospect it is probably near impossible to comprehend what that means to
someone coming to America for the first time hoping to be accepted, hoping such a conundrum exists.
Yet it does. |
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No we should not are you people crazy!!!!!??? We should keep it because we are under god aren't
we!!!! It is not a law for people to say it but when it gets out of hand and people are burning
flags that is just wrong. That is a disgrace to are US and the troops. If people don't care then
why should they be fighting for are freedom??? Troops are out there for us and by god WE SHOULDN'T
BE BURNING ARE FLAGS AND CHANGING ARE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE!!! There is nothing wrong with it. It is
perfect. If you are against it then are you saying that are founding fathers and presidents are
wrong. |
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Why get rid of "under god"? Is don't hurt nobody......I am not religious but i say don't remove
it....why change the pledge of allegiance for a few picky people who think that they matter more
than the rest of us? |
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If you get rid of the words "under GOD" you might as well git rid of the US, X that. You might as
well get rid of the world. GOD created everything and if you don't have GOD, you don't exist!!
If it weren't for GOD, we wouldn't have this country, so I say no way should we take out the words,
"UNDER GOD". |
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If you DONT want to say the pledge.. Then DONT.
But don't take MY God.. OUR God out of it!
This country was BASED on God and Freedom. If you don't want to acknowledge that this country is
"one nation, under God" then don't do it! |
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Why, may I ask should you take out the under God?
Is it affecting your life. Is it killing you that much just to say "under God"?
Yeah, I may be a Christian, but so what who cares. Why do you want to take it out. Give me one good
reason. Again, is it affecting your life?
It sure isn't affecting any of my non-Christian friends why should it affect you? Or is it killing
you that much to say God, with out using it in vain??? |
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How about we have several variations and say "under [Insert your belief here]" So if you're Muslim
you can say Allah or whomever, and if your christian say God or if you're Buddhist say whatever you
would like. |
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07 Apr 2008 16:56
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