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We Are Actually Being Racist In Attempts To Become Anti-racist!
We live in a society where we accept people of various races. But our paranoia of being racist is so strong, that in an effort to combat racism, we are creating a new of racism. Your thoughts.
 Tromanator  02 Oct 2008 10:19
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I think I would word it a bit differently. I think that some of the things we do to overcome racism, such as affirmative action, multiculturalism, etc. Have as a side effect, the perpetuation of racism. Whether you discriminate, for the benefit of a person or the detriment of a person, based on race, it is making the same error of thinking-----which is to base one's treatment of another on race. Now, having said that, is it worth it, so to speak, to accept this side effect for the overall justice in a society? That is a difficult question to answer. Another question is how much does a culture "tolerate" someone who is a racist. Is the amount of freedom allowed such that a person can harbor hateful, misguided thoughts and beliefs? Do we allow individuals the freedom to think things that the majority of folks may not agree with? This is another difficult question to answer.
 
 charlee  04 Oct 2008 02:53
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 your thoughts are always YOUR OWN to think whatever you want to.
by  Scorpion
 04 Oct 2008 21:01
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As long as we have the need to have laws against racism the is.
It is self fulfilling.

It is a bit like cops and criminals without one there would be no need for the other.
 
 keepmindok  04 Oct 2008 00:30
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 because "cops and robbers is balanced'...;-)
by  Scorpion
 04 Oct 2008 21:02
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If people didn't get offended so easily racism would have been all but forgotten by now.
 
 ur_wrong  04 Oct 2008 00:08
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The aim of being anti - racist is to defer away from barriers which divide us and yet anti- racists simply don't let those barriers slip by defending unreasonably the rights of ethnic minorities, i am against fighting with people because they are different, just as i'm against fighting altogether, they should no get special treatment because of our differences because you are being racist just in a different light, in the opposite direction .... So to speak , its like being extremely good to an ethnic minority just because they are an ethnic minority which is contradictory and incorrect we should have no difference between the races and accept that we are different as humans in an infinate number of ways except our legal system, which should not hold loop wholes for races.... It's just political correctness gone mad as ur_wrong lol rightfully put it .:P
 
 Easy_uk  03 Oct 2008 23:57
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Wow I never thought of that. Agreed.
 
 imright20  03 Oct 2008 21:16
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Fantastic motion...

Those who tiptoe cautiously around those of different race are in fact the most racist, indicated by their incessant wariness.
 
 sceptic101  03 Oct 2008 20:27
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 one has the right to tiptoe all one wants to, but not to abuse.
by  Scorpion
 04 Oct 2008 21:03
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What the anti racists don't realize is that discrimination is a part of life, every single person discriminates on a daily basis whether between breakfast cereal or people. Anti racists have a strange misconception as to what true racism is. To demand someone must treat one race differently to prevent racism, is racism. Case in point, a well known shopping chain in England effectively banned any kind of Christmas celebrations because and i quote"it would offend the Muslim employees" is making an assumption like this not racist??? The Muslim employees put in a complaint and now Christmas is back on. Racism is an insidious thing everyone can be racist to deny that point is just pointless.
 
 maugatar  03 Oct 2008 19:29
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Ye dunno y i agree i just do
 
 mutani  03 Oct 2008 19:11
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In some odd way it sounds true. We discriminate against racists now sooooo
were racist against racists. Haha that's a new one
 
 Smito  03 Oct 2008 13:58
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 no..... wrong
by  Easy_uk
 03 Oct 2008 17:08
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"Political correctness gone mad."
 
 wrong  03 Oct 2008 00:53
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 Here, here.
by  sceptic101
 05 Oct 2008 11:38
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This is a cool, unique twist, Tromanator.
Kudos to you!

Yes, actually I agree from a certain point of view: Judgementalism has replaced Racism as The New Racism;-)

I...."get it"......;-)
Good debate.
 
 Scorpion  02 Oct 2008 18:18
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 Thanks. It's a topic me and my sister (kitten) have talked about for a while. We both agree and we tried to get my friend involved but he seemed indifferent.
by  Tromanator
 03 Oct 2008 11:41
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It is human nature to either completely ignore or grossly overreact. However I think I prefer this new version of racism to lynching and segregating.
 
 finsch  02 Oct 2008 18:15
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Definitely.

We now institutionalise differences through policies of multiculturalism. Racists would say that all people are inherently different due to their biological make-up, multiculturalists say that all people are different due to their cultural background.

The opposite of the racist view would be that people are essentially the same regardless of their physical differences. However modern anti-racists argue that people are all different just like racists argue they are. Multiculturalists claim we must accept and tolerate the various cultural differences as though they are fixed. This is simply racism in a new guise.
 
 Kirsty08  02 Oct 2008 10:31
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 Exactly. Someone who sees sense.
by  Tromanator
 02 Oct 2008 10:44
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No, because if you become anti-racist, then you don't make fun of any race. Then, you aren't a racist anymore.
 
 fuzzyball  03 Oct 2008 23:48
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 Or at least you don't appear to be racist.

Your thoughts...?
by  sceptic101
 04 Oct 2008 17:28
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Stranger said it best.

He states a racist is not a race, so we can't be racist against it.

You can't be against something and in terms turn into the essence of it. And I see where you're coming from, that was good thinking, but the people who are racist are not someone we treat different because of what they do. We treat them different if they do do anything to us, because of our race. It's the fight to not be discriminated against, not to discriminate against those who discriminate. Because we don't even know you do it until you discriminate and even then we try to work it out, not allow them to eat, or come into the store because of what the do, but because they caused a quarrel. My point summed up is we are not racist against racist, on thin terms, because we don't know they are racist until they show it and even then we don't take actions as a racist would do.

They discourage it,
They know it might not work and,
They try to murk it, keep it dirtless,
Make it equal so no one is hurt,
Same work and same pay,
Same clerk with the same view, the same say,
Not against the way a person's skin pigments were placed,
To keep it smooth and to lay hate to waste,
No harm meant, or to cause alarming,
To defrost the heart of the large, the many,
To just BEZ and may everyone enjoy the same company.

Hah, get it get it. No seriously though.

Good thoughts, but it's not being the essence of something when intentions and influences are different.

Racist hate on what they see, we hate on what they do.
 
 Genkaku  03 Oct 2008 23:40
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 Might I suggest that you see my second comment under Stranger's post, then give me your thoughts on that?
by  sceptic101
 04 Oct 2008 17:30
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No
We're more becoming discriminative.
There is a difference.
Good topic though,.
 
 ScottyRAWR  03 Oct 2008 19:22
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 I don't believe that we're coming more discriminative. Where's your evidence?
by  sceptic101
 03 Oct 2008 20:20
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