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Tourists Who Buy Fake Designer Goods, Should Now Face Heavy Fines Or Imprisonment Around The World.
There should now be a universal fine of $5,000,000.00, (world-wide equivalent), or three years imprisonment for anyone found with fake designer goods; (clothes, sunglasses, sports gear, handbags, watches, even cigarettes), in their possession at airports or docks. Everyone, leaving or entering a country should be made aware of these fines, so that there is no excuse when people return with fake goods.
 LordDaniel  22 Aug 2009 15:16
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Apart from funding terrorist organisations, these black market goods are having a detrimental effect on the world economy. No taxes are being paid on these goods, which are often extremely substandard to the equivalent kosher items. Therefore, no funds get pumped back into the infra-structure of the country where they were sold. By implementing fines of this nature, the consumer lifeline of these goods will be severely cut, and inturn huge sweat shops will be closed down, and a better standard of living will inevitably be constructed for all.
 
 LordDaniel  22 Aug 2009 15:26
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 Well, with the frequency you bring this topic up, the fervor with which you defend it, and the extreme punishment that you propose, I'm pretty sure that either you're not a "Daniel" OR you're a living walking "Bruno". Which is it my "Lord"?
by  Grenache
 23 Aug 2009 13:01
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Buying one knock-off for personal use isn't a crime, and you're overreacting. The only people losing out by such purchases are wealthy, and they're not actually losing out; people carrying knock-offs helps promote their brand.

Buying a thousand and shipping them to a wealthy country to distribute for profit is a crime. Stick to criticizing people doing that and you'll have a point.
 
 K9  28 Feb 2010 06:55
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It makes absolutely no sense from an economical standpoint to pay up the nose for overpriced name brands when there is a genaric counterpart that is just as good.
 
 dlmiller82  04 Nov 2009 05:21
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It's only worth buying if it looks like the original product or is better. Normally they aren't. So why buy them anyway? That I cannot figure out. Someone enlighten me?
 
 Siddharth  23 Aug 2009 11:25
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 I'm begining to suspect you aren't a person at all but some sort of self evolved commputer virus.
by  finsch
 23 Aug 2009 15:03
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It's only worth buying if it looks like the original product or is better. Normally they aren't. So why buy them anyway? That I cannot figure out. Someone enlighten me?
 
 respire  23 Aug 2009 04:54
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 I would stress that it is the actual buying of these goods respire that is having such a detrimental effect of the world economy. Obviously these goods are produced in the far east, so by purchasing these counterfeit goods you Americans are boostering their economy, and criminal activity, while decimating your own!
by  LordDaniel
 23 Aug 2009 10:46
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That's utterly ridiculous. First off, who is to say that people know they are buying fake goods? Secondly, who is to say that they don't prefer the so-called fakes to the originals? There's nothing whatsoever illegal about buying a fake, as a fake. Lots of people have fake Mona Lisas hanging on their walls, so what?
 
 Cephus  23 Aug 2009 00:57
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 There is a huge difference in reproduction prints, and counterfeit goods. Are you saying that you condone criminal activity Cephus? I personally think you are missing the whole point of this debate, the whole infrastructure of a community is at issue in the framework of this debate. Please read, and keep up with the full debate so you can at least give a logical response, not a half hearted sentimental whim! As for proof of purchase, a bill of sale from a reputable dealer is usually quite sufficient!
by  LordDaniel
 23 Aug 2009 10:41
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Some fake goods, especially perfumes, are worlds better than the originals. Fake Brighton is of much better quality than the flimsy originals. Designer goods have a well-known reputation for being very poorly made. I had an authentic designer purse that disintegrated within two months of purchase. I have had my knock-off edition of that same purse two years and it is going strong.
 
 tinseldove  22 Aug 2009 22:20
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 Yes but you are missing the point dove lady. Knock off goods pump nothing back into the infrastructure of society, all they do is fuel sweat shops, and child labour, funding the criminal terrorist organisations. We are not talking about a few dodgy cheeky chaps selling a few knock off items on a Sunday afternoon here, we are talking about huge organised criminals.
by  LordDaniel
 22 Aug 2009 22:25
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You would have to have some way of proving that there was knowledge that the goods were fake, otherwise due process becomes quite undue. Something that I imagine would be quite difficult to establish. Your only effective legal recourse is to seize these goods and shut down the sales operations.
 
 finsch  22 Aug 2009 17:50
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 Bill of sale immediately comes to mind finschie! Most of the sales are run through a looky looky sales team, close one down and another one steps up to take his\her place. These type of traders are common throughout Europe! However, they have a tendancy to prey upon unsuspecting holiday makers, i.e. tourists. By imposing these fines as a main deterent, the life line of trafficking in counterfeit goods would be terminated. For further support of my argument may I direct you to the comment which I gave to kddan below yours!
by  LordDaniel
 22 Aug 2009 17:55
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I disagree with the punishment you propose, it is ridiculous to propose those kind of punishments. I'm sure you're joking. Of course fake goods can be dangerous, such a gameboy charger that killed a young boy. Or fake saftey gear. When there is danger involved obviously something should be done but I feel that a crackdown on the illegal traders would be more effective and legislation that makes it more difficult to deal in fake goods.
 
 kddan  22 Aug 2009 16:36
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 This crack down is directed at source kddan. Do you actually condone child labour, International criminal gangs, and terrorists?

Tourists in both Italy and France could possibly soon be fined hundreds of thousands of pounds, for buying counterfeit goods.

My main point is why not make it a world-wide fine? This would completely cut the life-line of these fake goods.
by  LordDaniel
 22 Aug 2009 17:50
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Sorry but the punishment is greatly disproportionate to the crime. It's like saying someone who buys junk food instead of local whole foods produce should be severely fined and imprisoned. And before you say the designer/imposter goods problem is bigger - you're wrong - because the food industry is massive, global, and every living person participates - unlike with blue jeans or handbags.
 
 Grenache  22 Aug 2009 16:09
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 You raise a very good point Grenache, maybe you have just touched upon the answer to America's Obesity problem. Fat people are a drain upon the Health systems of countries around the world, why not impose a fat tax upon the fat American people, they take up twice as much room, and in a lot of cases weigh twice, or three times as much as the average person. Baggage is charged @ weight at airports, why not impose this on the whole weight of a person and their baggage?

May I refer you to the reply I gave to kddan and finschie concerning this debate above!
by  LordDaniel
 22 Aug 2009 18:08
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