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Those Who Rely On God's Love And Strength Are Weaker Than Those Who Do Not.
I hear people say that finding God was the best thing for them because now they have strength and purpose in life. I never required such strength or purpose because I already had something besides God. Doesn't that make those trying to fill that void with God weaker? And please...do not argue semantics; I'm sure you could substitute a different word than "weaker" to understand what I'm saying.
 Damien  26 Oct 2009 12:02
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Well there's only one way to settle this -- an arm wrestling match. Step right up. But hmm, which side am I representing?
 
 Grenache  26 Oct 2009 21:01
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Sure, I do agree that those who rely on God is weak. But they gave everything to him, and humbled themselves in front of God. God said that whoever humbles himself will be exalted, and whoever exalts himself will be humbled. I feel stronger with God, though others may perceieve me as being weak and foolish. That's fine. I'll chase God's wisdom since it's the truth, and wonderful. I never felt so much happier in my life now. I was always unhappy before.
 
 joylove101  26 Oct 2009 12:16
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 Joylove101,

I could agree that weakness might be a perception of others. I just think that people who need to fill their lives with religion to give themselves hope and purpose are not as strong as those who already had that hope and purpose in the first place. I don't mean to sound harsh or insulting but there has to be a reason why my life is full of love and strength and yet my beliefs never come into that equation.
by  Damien
 26 Oct 2009 12:29
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Any way to relieve stress makes one stronger no matter how it's gotten.
One of AA's 12-steps is "a Higher Power".

If it helps alkies it could help anyone.
 
 debategal  12 Dec 2009 00:49
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I judge a mans strengths and weaknesses on what he has been through. Ive seen a few strong men because of their religious beliefs, and what would be considered weak ones, because of their lack of religious beliefs. It may be a crutch to some, but if strength is the ability and the drive to keep on keepin on?
Hey, if it gets you through the day...
 
 2free  28 Oct 2009 00:36
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Atheists fill the void with other things in order to make themselves feel stronger. Often times it is with some leap of faith in science and progress. All of the greatest struggles against injustice in the West have ben backed by Christians, I would tend to think that is because of strength. The fights against the slave trade in Britain and the Civil Rights Movement in America provide two great examples demonstrating not just strength, but incredible power in fighting a system of corruption and injustice which had previously seemed unstoppable.
 
 davidsuggs  27 Oct 2009 11:25
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There is no way to compare how a person would live if they had taken a certain avenue.

End of discussion.
Literally...such discussion is idiotic.
 
 justsumguy  26 Oct 2009 17:06
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 Is it really that idiotic of a discussion? I'm not talking about how a person would live if they had to do it over again; what I'm saying is that a person who HAS to fill their heart with God's love is weaker than someone who already has that part of their heart filled with something else...and I don't mean that something else to be alcohol or a strip club either.
by  Damien
 26 Oct 2009 17:47
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I personaly dont believe that people that rely on gods strength and love are weak even though I am not really big on religion ( I have my reasons). If they needed it I am fine with that. But people that use God to justify there wrong doings and BS are the ones that are the problem.
 
 afocentric  26 Oct 2009 13:54
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Yeah, I hear this all the time. First, one could call you weak for having to need "hope and purpose," yourself. What's the difference between what you have hope in and what you have purpose for, than what a believer depends upon? Second, I actually agree with you that we all must have hope and purpose, because to function properly we all "need" these things and, we therefore, are designed to need these things. Third, If we are designed to need hope and purpose, why is God a "weaker" provider of hope and purpose? Perhaps, we are designed to rely on Him and it is weaker to have to rely on false substitutes.
 
 charlee  26 Oct 2009 12:58
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 False substitutes? Would that encompass my family, friends, drive in life, and general positive outlook on life? I would hope not. The reason why people who need the hope and love of God are weaker, in my opinion, is because they require something past the ordinary; the unknown.

Now don't get me wrong; I believe in God and He and I often have conversations (never said I wasn't a little off to be talking to myself...heh), but I do not require His love to feel like my life has meaning or hope. I think we have a mutual understanding of each other and while I'm not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth, I don't need to rely on Him or religion; perhaps that's just how I was wired or perhaps I just got lucky with having a good life.
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 26 Oct 2009 13:04
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