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There Is Not A Positive For Every Negative.
I heard someone say today for every negative there is a positive. I do not believe that is true. It made me think of the 2 little girls in rural Oklahoma that were shot last year. 2 girls ages 11 and 13 we out playing and they were shot for no reason. The police say there were probably 2 shooters but they have no suspects. Someone please tell me the positive in this negative situation. That is just one example. So many children are victims of brutal crimes. What could possibly be positive about that?
 artemis  28 Oct 2009 06:17
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What a truly heartfelt expression this debate is. It is so difficult to make any sense of such tragic losses. There seems to me to be no positive for every negative. That thought nearly seems to make a tragic loss somehow less horrible than it is and there is no way to make the death of a child or any loss of life (many other things as well), seem like it's less of a loss than it is. Even if something positive comes out of negativity at some point, at the time that those parents are mourning their children, they are not likely feeling that there is somehow something positive that will come to pass. To tell them that at such a time would seem to trivialize what they are feeling now. I do believe that God has a plan. I do know that some brave and strong people endure great loss and find even greater strength than they ever knew they had or they find some way to help others because of the hardship and suffering they have experienced, but at the time when one loses a loved one...especially a child (I don't think any parent can possibly prepare for that loss...it seems so unnatural for a child to pass before their parents), even the thought that something positive may somehow take place is probably little comfort. For those of us who hear of these tragedies on the news and, thankfully, are not the ones who are on the news, it seems like such a waste of a beautiful, young life...one that is full of potential. I know that you only used that one thing as an example and there are many more tragedies that occur. For all of them, my heart goes out to those suffering. I pray that God brings comfort and peace to all who suffer.

The one thing I will say is that in the midst of so much tragic and nearly hopelessly recurring situations, there are new lives that come into the world each day and there are many strong, brave individuals who do make positive changes in our world. I don't think they are totally equal...no every negative has a positive, but I do think we need to try to see past the hurt, despair and sorrows that each day brings around our world and look to something that is good and makes life seem balanced. If we allow ourselves to dwell in only the sorrows, we will miss some of the great beauty and good that there is in this world. Maybe that's a small consolation to many, but I believe God loves all of us and wants our happiness. To stay stuck in the sadness that is sometimes enough to totally overwhelm us, we are missing out on things He has blessed us with.

I think, artemis, that your debate is one that should make everyone feel gratitude for those who they love who are in their lives. Parents should hold their kids tighter, praise them more, laugh with them more and make them know they are the single most important person in their life (or people for those with more than one). What you posted is a wake up call in a sense. Thank you. I will definitely thank God even more than ever for my dear children at the same time I will pray for peace and comfort for those families. This is the best debate I have seen you post and the one in which your true self is very much more evident. Bless you.
 
 my2cents2u  28 Oct 2009 12:59
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It would be silly to disagree. There is too much adversity and suffering and death and destruction in this world to claim every instance of it is offset by a positive.

Whomever made that claim to you is actually taking a figurative expression of their optimism and making it literal, as if it's a natural law, but it isn't.
 
 Grenache  28 Oct 2009 10:00
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Someone, anyone, disagree with me. Tell me there is always a positive. For the religious people tell me it is God's plan. Then explain to me how the plan works. For the scientific people tell me how for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Tell me what goodness is as strong as evil. I want someone to prove me wrong because I have spent my life believing in balance and I have come to realize there is no balance.
 
 artemis  28 Oct 2009 06:27
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 I wish I could tell you any of those things. I can't say that every negative event has a positive "something" to counter it. My belief in God does allow me to have faith that He will comfort the families of such a terrible tragedy, but to hear of two dear children killed for no reason, is something that even those of us who believe cannot possibly grasp what positive could come out of it. For some, I think they turn a negative situation into a positive one. The example that comes to mind is Michael J. Fox. He was so young to be stricken with Parkinson's Disease. He could have crawled in a hole and given up. He could have avoided any publicity. Instead, he is very vocal about working toward a cure. I have no idea as to his motives...don't know him, obviously, but his fight has brought awareness. I am in total agreement with you though. No, there is not a positive situation for each negative. Even if there were somehow, there would be no way to prove it and it would likely be of little comfort to the families of those dear children. Artemis, I know we don't always see eye to eye, but this debate posted so passionately by you, really touched me. You have much more substance than I ever gave you credit for and I hope that you find a way to make some sense of the random violence....it is very painful to think of others in those situations. I hate the news in some ways. Too sad and so much loss.
by  my2cents2u
 28 Oct 2009 10:55
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Do you really think that it is plausible to go through life sans tragedies?

Surely the world would be much worse if everything was perfect. We simply wouldn't appreciate it.

Balance rules our lives; we wouldn't enjoy the many pleasures of life if we didn't have the pain to parallel that.
 
 Maggie1  28 Oct 2009 19:16
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 I understand what you are saying but don't you think some things are too tragic and senseless? It seems sometimes there is not enough good to balance things.
by  artemis
 28 Oct 2009 20:18
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Just because everyone is on the other side...perhaps there is a positive to every negative but you may not be able to perceive it or see it. The problem with the news today is that negativity makes for good journalism; some heinous rape, murder, or atrocity is much better than hearing about some kid somewhere recovering from beating cancer.

All I'm saying is that it would be nigh impossible to take in EVERY positive and negative event at any given time and try to balance them out. I strongly believe that things do balance out, but even I cannot prove that they do. You know what you should do? Stop watching the news so much. I think after I give CNN.com a good read through every now and again, I feel sick to my stomach or depressed about the state of our nation or the world simply because of what CNN.com thinks is noteworthy.
 
 Damien  28 Oct 2009 14:44
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 Thank you. I want to believe everything balances out. I hope you are right maybe there is a positive that the human mind just can't see or comprehend.
by  artemis
 28 Oct 2009 19:04
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