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The fact is that oil has never run out. What has run out is diplomacy. Politicians no longer respect
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ALLTRUTH IS OBJECTIVE, ABSOLUTE AND UNIVERSAL
That doesn’t mean anyone knows everything. And it doesn’t mean people can’t think they know
something, but are mistaken. If a statement is true it is true for everyone, everywhere, all the
time. Now, there are people who question this absolute nature of truth. They believe that truth is
relative. Some statements are true for some people, while not for others.
But that is simply false thinking. If a proposition is true, it is true for everyone, everywhere,
all the time. If a proposition is untrue the same must be said. An untrue proposition is untrue for
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Logic is simply a process what you are talking about is priorities and common perception. The
process of logic remains the same but how you apply it changes with priority changes and changes in
available information. Logic is pure but it will not ever lead two people to the exact some place
because every person has different priorities and a different perception of the facts. |
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"First the discussion on oil isn't really about "logic". People may have been naive back then but
it's not like they applied a rule of logic (like a=b, b=c, so a=c) to jump to the conclusion oil
would last forever" You seem to say that humans have to think about logic to use it. If I'm walking
across a hill and i see a boulder in my way i use logic by walking around it do i not?
"Second, "logic" is a tool. It has some definite valid applications but it isn't the answer to
everything. Taken as an absolute it can be damaging. I had an odd professor in college who claimed
to have used logic to prove rape is sex and he repeatedly sent manuscripts to journals to publish it
and was repeatedly rejected. Then he'd come to class and complain the entire academic world didn't
fully understand his irrefutable logic."
His logic was relevant to his definition of sex. His definition I'm guessing was more two people
sharing a experience, id explain further but it would probably all be removed, another's definition
may have been two people, both willing, sharing a experience. In his definition he was logical in
another persons it was illogical its relevant to the persons definition.
"Third, regarding relativity, yes I think most things in life are relative. If you compare a
situation with something better or worse you can learn a lot. However, there are still some things
that are absolute. If you get decapitated you die. You could compare your body with a fully
decomposed skeleton and say relatively speaking you are more alive than the skeleton, but that's not
really true is it? Some things are absolute fact"
This is the hardest point to argue against as were speaking on present terms. Decapitation may be
able to keep a person alive in the future but at the moment its impossible.
Fourth, regarding oil, necessity is the mother of invention. If we can't afford oil nor find oil
we'll either do without it or find a substitute.
At the moment we are going into a recession. The main cause of this recession is oil. If we cant
afford to invent how do u expect to get out of the recession. But yes a problem prompts people to
fix it. |
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First the discussion on oil isn't really about "logic". People may have been naive back then but
it's not like they applied a rule of logic (like a=b, b=c, so a=c) to jump to the conclusion oil
would last forever.
Second, "logic" is a tool. It has some definite valid applications but it isn't the answer to
everything. Taken as an absolute it can be damaging. I had an odd professor in college who claimed
to have used logic to prove rape is sex and he repeatedly sent manucripts to journals to publish it
and was repeatedly rejected. Then he'd come to class and complain the entire academic world didn't
fully understand his irrefutable logic.
Third, regarding relativity, yes I think most things in life are relative. If you compare a
situation with something better or worse you can learn a lot. However, there are still some things
that are absolute. If you get decapitated you die. You could compare your body with a fully
decomposed skeleton and say relatively speaking you are more alive than the skeleton, but that's not
really true is it? Some things are absolute fact.
Fourth, regarding oil, necessity is the mother of invention. If we can't afford oil nor find oil
we'll either do without it or find a substitute. |
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