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There Are Two Opposite Humans
Evidence on this site suggests there are two opposite humans. One human is aware of evidence which is sufficient cause for it to believe it will be forever. The other insists there is no evidence to support such a belief. Neither of the two can believe the other. This would seem to suggest while being the same species, the two are different entities. Those who don't have sufficient evidence to believe they will live forever but do not insist there is no evidence have simply not provided enough evidence to know which entity they are.
 justsumguy  11 Oct 2008 23:39
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Aye! Male and Female, simple as that!
 
 joe9  12 Oct 2008 20:08
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by  RagTatter
 13 Oct 2008 23:27
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While I wouldn’t want to argue these are the only two delineations between people I would agree that this is an irreducible philosophical disagreement. It is a basic assumption in almost every philosophy. I would suggest your above exposition is a bit biased in its phrasing but I won’t quibble after all the discussions we’ve had. However, it seems to me you and I, who stand on opposite sides of this issue, are in fact more alike in many ways than many individuals who supposedly agree with our separate views.
 
 finsch  12 Oct 2008 01:37
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 I don't hold to this topic of debate. The topic is suggesting different entities, not delineations.

I agree that you and I who don't readily agree on the aspect of the eternal person but we are able to respect and examine the differences without having to overreact in order to protect our views.
by  justsumguy
 12 Oct 2008 05:08
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They simply have different beliefs and personalities, it doesn't mean they're different species' or anything.
 
 ur_wrong  13 Oct 2008 19:39
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 Definitely the same species. Could be different type beings.
by  justsumguy
 14 Oct 2008 05:12
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Uh, I'll give you points for coming up with a unique theory justsumguy, but sorry, it's not right. There are not two opposite humans, there are just humans. We've wrestled with religion through centuries, even among the major world religions there are variations on our origins and eternity and they've challenged each other without end.

And what your observations are really showing is in the contemporary Western world you have a) the extremely religious who resist pure science explanations, b) the extremely scientific who reject pure religious explanations, and c) a much larger swath of people in the middle who either don't have an answer or believe in a combination of both. To me, the expression "the truth is somewhere in the middle" is most likely correct because neither the extremely simple events of Genesis nor the miracle that evolution could raise us to what we are now is completely true by themselves.
 
 Grenache  12 Oct 2008 12:56
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 Even though I don't agree with this topic, I kinda disagree with you.

I think the topic is addressing world human. We all know cultures around the world and throughout time have believed in something personal which extended beyond death. A personal link to a reality beyond this reality.

I assume there were people during those times who fealt no link to this other reality.

I'm not talking about the definition of an answer here. I'm talking about the link.
by  justsumguy
 12 Oct 2008 13:20
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No, there are way more opposite personalities or opinions than two. I do agree with your theory, but there are other differences than that. Its like the old saying, there are two types of people in this world, people who think there are two types, and people who don't.
 
 verum  12 Oct 2008 05:33
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 The topic is not addressing personalities or opinions. Not differences. I edited the description to more clearly include everyone.
by  justsumguy
 12 Oct 2008 05:39
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There are more than two. We are all opposites in some respects, and the same in others. Life experience dictates who you are. I don't think you can categorise that into just two groups.
 
 2free  12 Oct 2008 00:58
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 The topic is trying to address the possibility of seperate entities of the same species, not differences between individuals of the species.
by  justsumguy
 12 Oct 2008 05:30
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I don't think everyone fits into one of these two categories.
 
 Specter87  12 Oct 2008 00:06
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 Not categories. Entities.
by  justsumguy
 12 Oct 2008 05:38
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We appear to be speaking of subjectivity when mentioning people’s beliefs in this debate. With that said, I only disagree on the premise that I think there is a third type of person. That person being one who believes that the partial opinion of a person is always correct in a subjective sense, but is never correct when concerning objectivity. Therefore, this type of person, though they may not agree with the other’s beliefs, will not simply claim them to be false, as subjectivity cannot necessarily be “false” in an objective fashion. An example would be one person claiming tomatoes taste good and another claiming that they do not. Which person is correct? Subjectively, both are technically correct, as a subjective thought exists only within the mind of that person. Objectively, neither are correct, as a subjective statement cannot be “correct” or “incorrect” in an impartial implication.
 
 Hizashi  11 Oct 2008 23:53
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 In the case of the tomato, if one says it tastes good and the other says it cannot taste good to the person who is tasting it....what then?
by  justsumguy
 12 Oct 2008 00:00
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