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Theistic Evolutionism Give Up Too Much Turf To Secular Evolutionism.
Even if evolution is true, and the theistic evolutionist buys into it, and says this is God's plan and work in creating man this way, the secular evolutionists will never agree because their definition of evolution is cast in stone. The BICs (Bioevolutionists In Charge) tell the other secular evolutionists what to think, and they define evolution as absolutely nondesigned, random act of natural selection. To place God behind the whole thing is totally unacceptable. Now, if the theistic evolutionist can change the definition and get "buy in" by the elite, then that's a different matter.
 charlee  22 May 2008 00:49
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I like the idea and tone of compromise your trying to promote short of that the entire things sounds entirely too... Like entirely too much.
Too much to interpret. Not for any given person but as a matter of practicality your proposal : "bioevolutionists are the modern pope" so depose them?
Its the same as intelligent design-- faith-based science. Literally: "god is unacceptable"

christian scientists v. Laymen scientists
how do you make laymen sound more renowned or how do you bring the laymen up to speed to 'what's at stake'...

Certain of the religious are willing to compromise that science is worthy of belief
"this is God's plan [so] work in creating man this way"

what would theistic evolutionist have to buy into that they haven't already likely compromised?

You may pit the evolutionist v. The religious evolutionist against each other but both of them base their faith in stone. One's stone is simply god-made the other is fossilized carbon... They simply can't understand the difference...

Neither should give up or be thought of as having to give up any room... Since both are human...
 
 characters  03 Sep 2008 07:17
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Brace yourself, and take the hand of the Lord, actually it is painless, he will guide you through all that.
At first it is all dark. But Hark...
Ten to fifteen minutes daily and you begin to see the light.Amen.
 
 keepmindok  03 Sep 2008 07:46
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Evolution isn't "random". And who said there even is a god(s)?
 
 iLoveJesus  03 Sep 2008 06:01
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What "god"? Prove one exists first, then you'll have a point.

Religious garbage presumes "true until proven false". Science is based on "false until proven true", that's why it withstands constant questioning while godbots wither until a single piece of evidence.
 
 K9  03 Sep 2008 05:34
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The problem as I see it is that one group relies solely on the facts that are known and the other group adds god without any proof of his existence. The first group is not necessarily against God but against what can't be proven.
 
 boy2girl31  05 Jul 2008 03:13
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It's not about turf wars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's about the search for TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your proposition as worded clearly shows you are willing to run over the truth in order to achieve political power.

Freethinkers accept the truth whatever it happens to be. Problem with religion is, it's a scam and thinking people spot that.
 
 OzzieMan  05 Jul 2008 02:56
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