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The White House Shouldn't Interfere With Latin American Countries Just Because They Dislike The Democratically Elected Leaders.
Or to put another way, the White House no matter who was president shouldn't have interfered with these countries. I watched a very interesting documentary (The War on Democracy) today about how America through very fascist and undemocratic means will do anything to control these countries. Chile and the attempted coup in Venuzuela are just two of many examples of certain power hungry politicans trying to expand the American influence. It was also very interesting to see the way puppet leaders from Washington would treat the people and any type of opposition. Very concerning.
 kddan  19 Oct 2009 21:04
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Of course the US shouldn't interfere with, sanction, harass or terrorize nations whose governments it doesn't like, but US foreign policy has always been "US interests first" even when it's illegal, unethical or to the detriment of other countries. The US has long lived by the mantra "might makes right", which is what led to the spread of communism during the Cold War and to the spread of islamic fascism and eventually 9/11. (It was the US under Reagan and George Bu**sh** Sr. Who funded and effectively built the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan, later to become the Taliban and Al Qaeda.)

The US has always opposed democracy in other countries because it prevents US corporations from being able to act unopposed. Pro-US fascist governments will always sell out their own people for a few dollars in the tyrants' own pockets. The only time that the US doesn't oppose democracies is where there is rampant corruption and bribery is effective. How else could Dow Chemical have caused the Bhopal disaster, or massive amounts of dioxins gotten into the Mexican environment and led to hundreds (thousand?) of deformed and stillborn children? And that's without mention of the effects of depleted uranium in Iraq and Afghanistan, which the US is using against the civilian population.

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Democracies have voices that will oppose such behaviours and make "doing business" illegally and unethically difficult to impossible. For example, much of US policy in Central America during the 1970s and 1980s was not about "anti-communism", it was done in El Salvador and elsewhere to help United Fruit prevent unions from forming that would have gotten fair wages. Because the El Salvadorans are poor and not US citizens, Americans supported such activities because it put cheap food on their tables.

United Fruit was not an isolated incident. This is exactly why the US overthrew the Iranian democracy in 1953, to prevent Iranian President Mossadegh from selling oil to the US at world market values instead of below-market prices that the US wanted. It is also why the US opposes Chavez in Venezuela, because he is forcing Venezuelan oil companies to sell at world market prices and using the extra revenue to pay for schools, medical care and build infrastructure for the benefit of Venezuelans. The US doesn't care that Chavez is using Venezuelan natural resources for the benefit of Venezuelans, the US just wants cheap oil.

If the US had a choice of policy where (a) US corporations made money and the other country profited, or (b) US corporations made the same amount of money but damaged the other country's people, environment and/or economy, the US will always choose (b). The US has never avoided a chance to exert and demonstrate force when it could have shown restraint and neighborliness.

"Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business."
- Michael Ledeen in 1990, neo-con, pro-fascist, and conspirator in both the Iran-Contra scandal and faked "Niger Yellow Cake" documents
 
 K9  20 Oct 2009 10:59
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 Any country it seems that wishes to move forward and goes it own way is usually stamped on by America. In accordance with politicans these countries threaten the security interests of America. I ask how can some of these countries be any threat to America when they are countries full of farmers and their army sizes aren't even a tenth of the American army? It is ridiculous for America to suggest this, I don't understand how other countries don't speak out against this type of fascism. Any other country would have a hundred economic sanctions placed on them but not America.
And from what I know of Chavez he is actually doing some good in Venezuela and is benefiting the country. For example the fact that they already have free health care and free education. It's only the rich and American minded who don't seem to like him. Oh and the American dominated biased media of the country of course.
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Yeah, the US has centuries of guilt of manipulating Latin American governments and leaders, even assassinating them, despite them coming to power through democracy. We should let other countries choose their own leaders.
 
 Grenache  20 Oct 2009 09:55
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Kddan, the white house shouldn't be doing a lot of things. Some say we are being run by some extreme bankers who are buying our powers, and PR tv scripts to put sublimanl messages in tv, etc etc.

I am very concerned about the state of the USA and Europe...
 
 gottfried  20 Oct 2009 05:33
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Despite protests from previous senior American politicans about how they had nothing to do with suprising number of coups in these countries secret documents have been uncovered to suggest otherwise. For example one document said that America would destroy one countries economy to make them subserviant to American ambitions. Another showed funding of military leaders in countries so they could manufacture their own coups. In Venzuela in 2002 it emerged that the leaders who replaced the democratically elected president, Hugo Chavez were funded by America and approved as good puppet leaders to allow American influence to seep through.
A leading official from the CIA, Duane Clarridge even said that some of the things these new leaders do are criminal but as long as it secures American Security interests then these things aren't a bad thing. These things include the massacres of thousands of people as well as torture and rape of innocent people and activists.
These are war crimes against soverign nations and the democratic will of the people. This should never be allowed to happen again. America needs to learn it isn't an empire no matter how much it would like to be.
 
 kddan  19 Oct 2009 21:14
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Actually, most of the people in those countries have lived in insanity due to people who have been their rulers for a very long time.

Even in Mexico, the ruling parties have been almost intolerable.

America probably should have taken over the entire World when mother Russia fell.

All countries interfere. Even France interferes.

There are many people in almost every country who BEG for interference.

Being a tourist or working in a country for awhile doesn't cut it when it comes to saying "the Salvadorians" or the "Nicaraguaians". As with every country on the face of the earth...there is no such thing as one view of the people.

It all depends on who you talk to. There is ALWAYS support for the ruling party and there is ALWAYS opposition.

Am I saying America is the angel of goodness? No. Does America make all kinds of mistakes in foreign policy? Certainly.

Have the Latin American countries sucked beyond belief for a very long time? Definitely.
Has Europe interfered? Definitely.

England actually went to war with Argentina. Lol
 
 justsumguy  21 Oct 2009 04:52
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