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Certainly.
Does that mean you're going to shut up about anything involving Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists,
Zoroastrians, animists, wiccans, etc.?
Or are you going to continue displaying your ignorance in public by assuming your filth...I mean,
faith, is the only "real" religion?
The others I listed are just as real as yours.
Your ignorance about other religions makes you unqualified to talk about it. |
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Yes, Mark should stop debating theology. The issue here isn't just "theological illiteracy" but
people who know nothing BUT theology as well. Religion has little to do with reality and those who
are supremely convinced that religion is factually true are often cast in the role of the fool when
it turns out they don't have a clue what they're talking about. |
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Spirituality is an inside thing, no one on the outside is EVER going to really understand. They try
to understand the Bible or any other religion from bits and pieces and think they know something.
That's just like the story of the 3 blind men touching an elephant in some small place and thinking
they know what it's all about. (obviously that's assuming they don't know what an elephant is, I
have to write that, or the so called intellectuals will try to use that to argue about what they
can't know.) |
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Totally agree. People post a ton of stuff about topics they know nothing about. Then they make
ridiculous statements with no solid proof backup. If you don't have any good, constructive comments
to leave, then don't leave them. |
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Nice, some elitist site where you get to decide the measure of validity? I don’t think so. |
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We learn by an exchange of ideas. However, there is only one truth. How do we come to a knowledge
of that truth? Some are always learning new things but are never able to come to a knowledge of
that one, life changing truth that has existed even before the foundation of the world.
Christianity is all about faith. It has nothing at all to do with working to try and please some
deity. It has nothing at all to do with trying to live good enough to tilt the scales so that we
please a god who is waiting to punish us. So many, even well meaning Christians, believe that we
must strive to please God. No, we only trust Him. It is all about faith. I cannot convince anyone
to believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of the living God. I did not find God, He found me. He has
now placed inside of me eternal truths that will carry me now and through eternity. Even by
debating whether the Christian God is real or not means that you are not 100% sure. It could be
that He is pursuing you now, and He always wins. |
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No.
All one requires is passion.
No one has all perfection of knowledge anyway.
Those who think they know it all are simply mistaken.
All you require is passion for a subject to be worthwhile debating.
We all learn as we go along.
Which is one majorly excellent outcome of debate. |
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Good judgement doesn't come from just watching, you have to experience it.
I'll debate on theology all day long and I will learn ALL DAY LONG. |
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As there is no proof that Christianity is actually correct about the nature of reality, the
consideration must be made that God does not exist and that all traditions and beliefs which are
based upon God's existence are therefore suspect. Under these conditions, someone who is
"theologically illiterate" might actually be in a better position to get at the truth. |
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If your position is strong, and your faith is strong then you should not fear.
If you don't feel there is a point to the argument then don't engage. There are other sites like
belief.net that can engage you in a better way.
Often it's the same tired posts, over and over, and at some point i just lost interest. The
predictability of some posters is almost a cliche. Who really cares? |
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In practice this would mean that no one could talk about the core concepts of most magical belief
systems, and would essentially shut down any discussion of them on this site. If these concepts have
any value, they should be accessible to everyone, not just people who have pored over some arcane
tomes on the subject.
The truth is that most people who consider themselves theologically literate are really not. You,
for example, are apparently unaware that the belief about Hell, perhaps the most fundamental of all
Christian beliefs, you were articulating was the exact opposite of the one accepted by the Catholic
Church, the church you belong to. It's clear that you are a wannabe who doesn't even have a clue
about the basics of your own faith. Yet you trumpet your "theological expertise" high from the
mountain-tops.
Like all "appeals to authority", your claim that you need to have some abstract, poorly defined
mastery of a subject before discussing it is just a ploy to escape outside scrutiny of your beliefs
and preposterous claims. If expertise was so much more valuable than non-expertise, the expert
should be able to dispose of the non-expert easily. A heavyweight champion should easily be able to
dispose of some random amateur from the local pub who fancies his chances in a fight. If he can't,
his expertise must be called into question. |
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