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God is awesome. |
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It's the only rational belief for earth's existence. |
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I have to vote yes but I'm perplexed by the references in the comments about a perfect universe.
The universe, if anything is anti-perfect. Strong scientific evidence says the universe is temporal.
While awesome and seemingly complex to the temporal human, compared to perfect it is the most
insignificant thing that could possibly exist (and that includes it existing for trillions of years
longer than expected).
On a theological level, I agree it is part of a perfect plan. But it's creation is nothing compared
to the creation of an eternal soul.
It took a miracle to hang the stars in space, which are intrinsically linked by the temporal count
we know as mathematics. But that is simple addition compared to the creation of each person that
stands in awe of the universe which is next to nothing compared to the person. |
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"The heavens declare the glory of God, and the earth sheweth forth His handiwork".
Or so David, the poet, and writer of the Book of Psalms, so adeptly said ;-) |
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I agree, everything is so perfect in the universe. The truth of this is valid for every living
creature. However, only humans can consciously contemplate it. In doing so we attain philosophical
wisdom. |
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I am not one for organized religion. When I was very young we went to Sunday school.
My parents, in their late eighties have from time to time let go the hand of God, but it is always
when they reach out again for the hand of god, things start to go right for them again.
Oddly they follow different religions.
When I was in L.A. I was invited to a Paster Price event, and would go to this, and that, hear and
there, but at the end of the day it is part of me and deep in my soul.
If I go down to the beach and paint for an hour or so I can bring back with me what I have captured
on the canvas. For me right now, this is a wonderful world.
It might be a bit airy fairy but Hey! I cannot deny what I see with my own eyes. You can't put the
toothpaste back in the tube. That is too messy a job for such a small reward. |
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The mighty creator of the universe, randomness, did indeed have a hand in the creation of our
planet, which was randomly assembled from a mass of cosmic debris. |
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Knowledge of a perfect Universe is good. And, is of practical use in everyday life. It leads to
wisdom. Wisdom implies intuitive reasoning, which grasps indemonstrable first principles.
Emancipation, is gained through autonomy captured within these principles by prudence. Prudence is
ingenious. IF you despise the true imitators of all ingenious written and captured works of
prudence, then you despise subtle invention. The Poet and the Artist capture the very essence of
nature, which is philosophical and ingenious in reflection, and considers all properties of loves,
graces, forms, airs and scenes, trees, animals, grasses and flowers, which they then transcend and
surround with allegorical posture, enhanced by perpetual aesthetic shade and light. This ability to
capture the fifth essence in nature is related to the Mighty Creator himself, and in-turn makes the
Poet or the Artist an Adopted Son or Daughter of the Mighty Creator. Therefore, those that
deliberate against the existence of 'The Mighty Creator of a Perfect Universe' despise the mutual
existence of the Sons and Daughters of the Mighty Creator. However, compulsion may successfully
establish one's firm stance in a debate, where argument may fail. |
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Most of the great minds of the past believed in a Designer, because when something looks designed
then one usually assumes an intelligence behind it. Newton, Copernicus, Koepler, Gallileo were all
theists whose believed that the only rational reason for science to exist was because there was a
rational designer behind it all. They didn't inject a "God of the gaps" mentality, but reasoned
that it would only be rational that such a reasoning being was behind it all to design the universe
and its amazing natural laws. Perhaps they were wiser than many scientists today who adhere to the
religion of scientism. |
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This is a very hesitant agreement. I'm not an atheist so I can't say God had no hand in it. But I
also want to emphasize I fully believe in the validity of evolution and fully reject textbook
creationism. |
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Look, I believe there are many more mysteries to be discovered in our studies of the natural world
than we have unearthed so far. However that being said I have never seen a definition of the divine
that seems either credible within the framework of what I do understand of the natural world or,
necessitated by the existence of the natural world. People I respect in the present and from the
past feel differently than I do but that does not change my opinion. |
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Isaac newton and his contemporaries weren't around when the Theory of Evolution was articulated. A
lot of these rationalist scientists would have just loved the idea of evolution. |
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Well, naturally a mighty creator of the universe would have had a hand in creation of our planet (as
we are part of the universe). The name itself defines his/her/it's supposed ability.
Technicalities aside I do not think that we were designed by a mighty creator. If we can explain
life through science - which i fully believe that in the future we can - there is little need for us
to fall back and say science must have been designed by someone, etc....
Perhaps a good way of putting it is with mathematics:
2+2=4
If i have 2 apples, and another 2 apples - does this mean I have 4 apples? - yes - but how can 2 and
2 make 4 - why does 2 and 2 make 4 - that must be God because it is a perfectly designed event.
Whereas it's actually just mathematics, and i could say actually i have 3 apples, and another apple.
It's perception.
We all can believe in what is in front of us, and it's perhaps our longing to wonder "why" things
are that make some dependent on a belief there must be a creator.
Random particles forming in space and giving us life through coincidental conditions..... Why can't
that just be it. Do we need a designer to explain away something which I personally feel is actually
quite wonderful in itself. |
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