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Michigan And Florida Should Have To Re Run Their Primaries
The January 2008 Democratic Party Primaries In Florida And Michigan Should Not Be Counted. Both candidates agreed not to campaign in the states. In Michigan the only name remaining on the Ballot was Hillary Clinton's. Hillary had name recognition that Obama did not in January, and the only way he could have improved his chances in these states was if he were allowed to campaign in them.
 donphilipe  10 Mar 2008 04:49
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Yes, it's clear the Clintons are prepared to do anything to try and salvage Hillary's dream of being the first woman pres. Disgraceful really. Everyone agreed those two states shouldn't have their delegates counted because they ignored the party rules. If they are now allowed to seat their delegates anyway where is the discipline and punishment for states who broke the rules?

Of course, this is only being pushed, not out of any sense of justice, but out of a sense of desperation - by people associated with those states who are part of the Democratic establishment and therefore Hillary supporters. The Clintons still have their old contact network in operation. So we see Jennifer Granholme, governor of Michigan and a Clinton supporter, demanding that some solution is found. Sure. And she would have been just as strident if Hillary had been in the lead and Obama needed a miracle, right?

It's ludicrous to suggest that the delegations should be seated with their current vote totals. And it's debatable whether Clinton even avoided campaigning there. I've heard one person say she turned up for something in Florida just before the vote.
 
 Hidell  10 Mar 2008 05:04
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 Well, the DNC never said Florida and Michigan couldn't vote. They just said they had to vote after Feb 5th. Just a note...
by  donphilipe
 10 Mar 2008 05:40
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Perhaps the most blatantly despicable political tactic I've seen used in the 2008 political season was the attempt on behalf of the Clinton campaign to suggest that Hillary should be allowed to gather the delegates she "won" from the Michigan Primary where Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot. It's that kind of stuff that makes people sick of politics.

And on the subject of Florida, it is probably Clinton country ultimately, but I bet Obama would have cut into her huge lead there (as he did in Ohio and Texas) had he been allowed to campaign.

See, ultimately, there is a difference between these candidates: One appears to honor his agreements, one doesn't appear to honor hers.
 
 donphilipe  10 Mar 2008 04:54
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 Hillary will win like i said before the 4rth primaries , you have to sit back and just see who is really playing dirty we know who Hillary is but we don't know who obama is.
by  nelson12
 10 Mar 2008 05:14
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They are people of the US. Their voice should be heard!
 
 melisiwa  10 Mar 2008 15:44
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The current suggestion being floated is that Michigan and Florida would be permitted to vote again, and I think that this would be a fair solution. Donna Brazile was on CNN Sunday morning and she noted that the rules do allow for a second vote, but this would require Michigan and Florida to foot the bill, as the DNC would not be willing to pay for it. Again, this sounds fair enough--these two states obviously broke party rules by bringing their primaries forward, so if they want to get a seat at the table, the only way out is to vote again and for them to find the necessary funds.

Hillary Clinton stands a very good chance of winning both states if they vote again, although I predict that her margin of victory in Florida will not be as high as last time around. Either way, these two states give her an opportunity to surpass Obama's delegate count.
 
 mackenzie  10 Mar 2008 13:13
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That would not be American if that happen democracy would be proven that it does not work not for the people , of the people but for the hungry politicians that want to slide their way in the white house without working for it hard like Hillary is doing. People like barack obama that gets a free ride in. It's a popular contest not a professional one.
 
 nelson12  10 Mar 2008 04:53
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