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It's interesting that science in all it's theories does NOT EVER directly target religion as a whole
nor specific religious groups. Science tests theories, it doesn't test religions. In comparison
religious groups do directly and deliberately target science and/or it's theories in very personal
assaults. It's also interesting that science does NOT EVER try to impose it's teachings within
religious institutions to try to force them to teach evolution along side their creationist idea.
However religious groups do directly and deliberately try to remove evolution from school teachings
and/or force the relgious creationism belief into science classrooms as part of the curriculum.
Clearly if there is a bully on one side of this dispute it is religion. |
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You all probably have a pretty good idea of my personal religious views (or lack thereof) but I
freely admit that there is nothing I know of in all that we have discovered about Life, The
Universe, and Everything that disproves a creator, the supernatural, or some sort of soul.
However science is not a belief system. I know some people try to treat it that way but they are
confused. Science is a methodology for deciphering the truth about the mechanics of the natural
world. Nothing more, and nothing less.
Evolution for example, is the genetic change of groups of organisms over time. This is an observed
fact. The Theory of Evolution is the study of the how’s and why’s of these changes. The fact
that we have a very broad and deep understanding of these mechanisms based on a body of work that
beggers the Taj Mahal and ten Great Walls of China in scope still doesn’t prove or disprove the
existence of god it simply gives us greater understanding of our own environment. |
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Science is predicated on logical thought and the search for facts.
Rightwing ideology and religion (nearly always together) are predicated on rationalizing ways of
self-servingly getting more for themselves at the expense of others (e.g. Slavery, dumping tax
responsibility on the working class, etc.).
Given that one seeks honesty and the other seeks to protect lies, it's inevitable that they are
going to come into conflict. |
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K9  30 May 2009 21:49
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Just look at the past several centuries’ when incongruously religion and science have been
coexisting; it’s clear that the religious fanatics are out to destroy science. The only thing
science aims to annihilate is the blindness and illogical aspects of humanity. It’s ironic; the
institutions that which oaths to shed the light upon mankind and open our eyes is the one which is
determined to shun it. |
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I'm a conservative Christian and I adore science.
Christianity and science are most compatible. Science, when applied appropriately to parts of our
existence, is a great source of knowledge and truth. Those things that are part of existence, that
are not physical or material (nonemperic) don't lend themselves to scientific scrutiny. Such things
as the laws of logic, or conscousness, or the soul or just about any mental activity, actually the
scientific method, itself, cannot be verified through science. God, if he exists, and I think he
most certainly does, seems to be in the latter category and, hence, not detectable by science or
subject to scientific inquiry. There may be some "right wing" folks who are afraid of science and
see it as the enemy, but such is not the case for most thinking Christians. |
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False. It's just people who think they know better. So they decide to worship Darwin, so they cannot
be held accountable to God. |
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I would say it's a 50/50 scenario. And many scientists get burned for even suggesting a creationist
account. Science gets a bad rep with reckless scientists using their accountability without
responsibility.
Much of science has changed over the years and is very much so more theoretical. |
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