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Possibly a very basic form of socialism or communism. Giving away your possessions and doing all you
can to benefit the whole of society does seem to suggest that. But if you look at the Roman Catholic
Church they seem to have subverted quite far from that message. They seem to do everything for the
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Sure, I'll agree with this. Doesn't any and all organized religions have socialist tendencies though
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I don't think modern-day Christians are Nazis or anything of the sort, but certainly the early
church, the one described in the Bible, was very much a communist idea. Give everything you own to
the poor, God will provide, live communally, work for the group. That's the communist ideal. |
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I agree that christian are probably nazis because christians have killed more people than all the
wars combined in the name of religion. The church tells you what you can do and not do. You figure
it out . |
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Ive argued this point before, but whether Jesus was or was not the son of God, he basically preached
socialist doctrine.
Probably as good a reason as any to crucify him. He played for the paupers not the princes whilst
practicing a moral standard which should apply to both.
He was crucified by the establishment of the era and sold out by his own. |
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Well as a number of you noted I was actually making fun of calling Obama a Nazi, which is no less
valid than calling the Christian church Nazis, in my personal opinion.
In fact as I have mentioned before the base ethic of the small american community that is the
backbone that this country was built on, worked on a unofficial, unspoken socialist moral code.
People helped each other in times of trouble, pooled resources in time of need, and above all valued
the community over all. Were those people Nazis? All this tea party false information is despicable,
repugnant, and ridiculous. |
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Lets see. Churches mandate that 10% of your earnings must go in the offering plate or as many
churches say, "you are robbing God". If you don't worship or believe in him, you must burn in
hell. I don't know how socialist one can get. In fact its more of worshiping a dictator. Choice
or not, there is a biblical mandate or you are considered sinful and expect to lose your soul. |
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I think you are right. That makes as much sense as an African Amercian president being the new
leader of the Nazi party. LOL |
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Have you tried to know what God is saying? The Bible only says to be selfless and love God and your
neighbors. It also talks about being diligent and progression, and change in God's love. Socialism
talks about public ownership and means of production, but not God's love and loving your neighbors.
Socialism is also against capitalism. |
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Socialism leads to communism and that is completely against christianity it is trying to get people
all equal and its known that everyone is not gonna be on the same level someone is going to always
want to be ahead of the other ior have more power than someone else because we have a natural sin
nature, and christians know and accept that. |
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My view on this has been very well expressed in the previous posts on this side. On first look, I
see your point of view as far as the government acting like a good Christian with a charitable
heart. However, Christian charity comes from within the individual not from the state. The main
difference is that the state combines the so-called charitable act with cruelty. The cruelty is the
act of "taking" from those who don't choose to give or cannot afford to give.
Also, Christ's statement of "give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's" is probably
worthy of a debate at some future time, since there may be some relevancy here. |
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Ridiculous. "Socialism' denotes governmental control/involvment. The Christian message ALWAYS speaks
about individual actions. |
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I do see your point because Christianity does promote kindness and generosity from those who have
more to those who have less. HOWEVER, the important distinction is Christianity instructs the
individual to make those acts of kindness and it's always the individual's choice, socialist
government on the other hand reappropriates from those who have more (via taxes or such) and does it
without your option to say yes or no to it. Socialist government subjects don't have an option to
opt out and say "nah, I don't want to pay for it this time, sorry". So it's not the same.
Despite all of Christ's teachings on grace I don't recall him ever saying something like "the king
should take 30% from all the wealthy and divide it among the paupers". Frankly there were no
political or governmental overtones to his teachings at all. It was always about the individual's
choices. |
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Leave it to you to compare Christians to Nazis. |
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Just because organized society doesn't make it socialist. Charity is free will too, not forced labor
or taxed out of us. Responsibility is the Christian's main vice. And that is the Capitalists main
vice. |
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13 Sep 2009 04:07
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