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The Bible Does Not Prove "God" Exists.
It claims the existence of God, but it can't prove God exists.
 Damian  28 Apr 2008 18:55
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I am so often frustrated by the stupidity of those brainwashed religious preachers who often argue with me - an atheist - as such:

ATHEIST: How can you know God exists?

PREACHER: Because the Bible says so!

ATHEIST: But how can you trust the Bible?

PREACHER: Because it is the word of God!

ATHEIST: But how can you KNOW God exists?

PREACHER: Because the Bible says so ...

... And on and on and on ad infinitum.

It is textbook circular logic.
 
 -benjamin-  23 Jun 2010 00:02
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 PREACHER: How can you know that God doesn't exist?

ATHEIST: Because The God Delusion says so!

PREACHER: But how can you trust The God Delusion?

ATHEIST: Because it is the word of Richard Dawkins!

PREACHER: But how can you KNOW God doesn't exist?

ATHEIST: Because The God Delusion says so.

... And on and on ad infinitum.
by  dlmiller82
 07 Aug 2010 18:48
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Nothing can prove or disprove something like that.
 
 finsch  08 Mar 2009 21:29
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The bible proves nothing except possibly how gullible we are.
 
 Evileye  09 Dec 2008 16:27
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Just because a book implies a belief does not mean it is by any means factual that why there are different genres of boooks such as fiction.
 
 Eeyore  07 Nov 2008 14:25
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Clearly, the eddas doesn't prove the existence of baldr in much the same way.
 
 sensai80  13 Jul 2008 20:20
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It's funny because everyone on the against side agreed with this debate. They all said that it doesn't prove God exists.
 
 asphyDrake  13 Jul 2008 20:09
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God is an invention of an overactive human imagination and our unending strive to answer the world un-answerable questions, "god" only exists if you want "him" to
 
 Truth  14 May 2008 13:01
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Pretty much. It's irritating when people think the opposite.
 
 Mark  07 May 2008 22:03
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Agreed. The Bible is a work of fiction.
 
 ibanex_87  05 May 2008 17:42
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 The Bible is also a history document, so therefore not total fiction.
by  XieXie
 26 May 2008 23:10
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We cannot prove that God exists, for prove denies faith, and without faith, He is nothing.
 
 nickwhan  03 May 2008 11:13
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 We cannot prove God does not exist, and he still exists with no faith.
by  XieXie
 02 Jun 2008 00:47
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God exists if only to help validate our own place on earth. No one can provide definitive proof of how either were created but yet both exist. Faith gives direction....
 
 Tepal  29 Apr 2008 03:11
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Even God does not prove that God exist,
If an omniscient omnipresence is truly
that by definition, what for art thou shall ye
prove. The only creative genius the bible
confirms is that of it's imaginative authors.
 
 Bacchus  28 Apr 2008 23:29
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The Bible does exactly nothing to prove the existence of a God. It's nothing more than glorified propoganda.
 
 Jakers  28 Apr 2008 20:01
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The Bible proves nothing at all, any more than any book of fiction does. Saying the Bible proves God is like saying books by J.K. Rowling prove Harry Potter.
 
 Cephus  28 Apr 2008 19:53
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 FALLACY ALERT FALLACY ALERT
1. HP is intended as fiction
2. God is presented as fact
by  Mark
 16 Jun 2008 22:28
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Exactly. The buybull is nothing but a collection of fables compiled into a book by a committee in Rome more than 700 years after the alleged events it purports to tell.

The buybull in naught more than a game of "telephone".
 
 K9  28 Apr 2008 19:11
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I disagree, it's the Lords note book. You just wait until he gets his full set of encyclopedias out. Those that doubt the Lord's good book will be a bit like the guy who fell over a cliff of a volcano, and as he hurtled towards the fire filled ground he just manages to hang on to his own bit of protruding branch of knowledge. Staring down into the 1,000 metre drop to almost certain death, he'll cry out "Help me is there anyone up there? And a deep voice will cry back "Yes my son, I'm up here."Who is it?" Those who don't know will cry?" And the voice will say "it's me the Lord." Can you help me?" They will then say. "Certainly my son. Just let go of the branch, (that little piece of knowledge you think you know), and I will catch you". Then they will shout out "is there anybody else up there?"

You gotta have FAITH brother!
 
 joe9  13 Jul 2008 20:22
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 So to summarize... the bible doesn't prove God exists?
This is perhaps my point - God is Dependant on faith - You can't prove God exists.
by  Damian
 16 Jul 2008 00:56
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God didn't say prove i exist he said come to me and ill reveal myself to you the only way to find god is to seek him
 
 spiritman  28 Jun 2008 00:12
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God is defined by being unprovable, and before the bible he was understood by being undefinable, it took many gods to understand the role of humanity and the ways of the world... But polytheism typically was fictitious in nature and people didn't question the origin of things simply accepted it not on faith as much as "just one of those things"... A person demanding for proof of god needs to appreciate themselves and their ability to ask such questions... Many people don't understand that influx...
 
 characters  03 May 2008 09:04
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The proof for God's existence is similar to the proof offered in any other proposition that is up for consideration. We don't usually accept things because there is proof in the mathematical sense but rather because of the convergence of separate lines of evidence, each of which can be refuted in isolation but not easily in combination with the others. First there is the moral argument, which briefly is that there is an objective right and wrong, just as real as the multiplication table, and that God is the most reasonable explanation of the source of the moral order. Second, there is the aesthetic argument, that there is an objective basis for the human apprehension of beauty and that this has a divine origin. Third, there is the evidence of religious experience, including the private experience of great men whom we have reason to respect for other reasons, such as Pascal, and also the experience of groups, including the apostles, the Pilgrim Fathers and also many ordinary people who have experienced total transformation following their religious experiences; fourth, there is the evidence of science, especially because of the rationality of the universe that we can understand corresponds with the rationality of our own minds, giving us a glimpse into the Infinite Mind; and fifth, there is the evidence of history with so many of our greatest statesmen and philosophers, including Lincoln and Washington were firmly convinced of the existence and power of Divine Providence -- God as overseer of events. Taken together, these evidences are such that it strains our credulity to think there is no God.
 
 johnb  29 Apr 2008 00:09
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 1) Moral order. The ability to decide what is right and what is wrong varies from person to person. Some may think it is wrong to engage in homosexual behavior, whilst others think there is no reason for it to be wrong. Using this as an example, surely that suggests human instinct and nature is the most reasonable explanation of moral order. Not God?
2) Likewise can not appreciation of beauty be entirely human?
3) People have many experiences and transformations which may easily be attributed to another God, to determination, will power, denial, inner strength, and exterior inspiration.
4) With regards to Lincoln and Washington. Although some may be convinced of a God, still doesn't make it actual.

This however, is all irrelevant. The existence of God is not really the main point of this discussion. My point to get across was that many people say the Bible proves God exists, and that it's claims are true, and that it is the truth, but a singular source can not prove itself, an it's folly to assume the Bible does anything rather than claim.
by  Damian
 29 Apr 2008 00:21
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Prove it! I want proof!
 
 celva_olva  29 Apr 2008 00:00
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 A singular source can not corroborate itself. Furthermore, you can't prove a negative.

The Bible depends on faith. It's content can't be proved.
by  Damian
 29 Apr 2008 00:03
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While I agree that the bible does not "prove" God exists I don't agree that it is fiction. So in the name of discussion I am posting against. The bible's purpose is not to prove or disprove anything. Its purpose it to teach and inspire. It does tell you how you can come to believe in God.

I quote from the epistle of James 1:5 "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of god, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him."


So there you have it. I do not think the bible is infallable. There are errors but those errors are human. Those errors happened because of the numerous translations and copies of it there have been, not because of the original interaction between God and his prophets. That is why i quoted James, Hevenly Father wants us to know him, to understand and feel his love. What better way than a heartfelt prayer, directly to the one you are wondering about.
 
 captangst  28 Apr 2008 22:14
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 The Bible does in fact prove the existence of God in the ordinary sense of the word prove -- as it's used in court cases, for instance, which isn't proof in the mathematical sense but proof beyond a reasonable doubt based on the accumulation of evidence. The Bible is a book of history, not theology, and it sets forth tremendous events that show the hand of God in human affairs. For example, there was a tiny band of men in an obscure part of a despised section of the Roman empire who set forth to change the world without benefit of telephone, printing press, or Internet. They transformed the nature of classical antiquity within a few generations, not based on their own meagre abilities but based on what they asserted to be the power of God. It was the continuation of great events before them. A slave population was led out of Egypt, protected from their pursuers by clearly miraculous events, and established a nation that has been transforming the way the world sees the nature of ultimate reality. It is easy to dismiss theories, much more difficult to dismiss actual events, and the Bible is brimful of them showing the light and power of God.
by  johnb
 29 Apr 2008 17:38
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