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Blasphemy ShouldBe Illegal, And Things Should Be Illegal Because They Disagree With Someone's Beliefs?
In a debate in school, the team who were against us kept bringing up the subject of religion and how God created us and if we were meant to change then he would've given us that ability (This house would ban cosmetic surgery was the topic) and I think that they shouldn't have used this argument. Debates should incorporate facts, not opinions. But that's just my view, let me know what you think (Atempt at irony)
 ScottyRAWR  24 Sep 2009 22:32
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Aye! I would personally vote yes. I would keep it on a personal level between my 'God!' and myself. My guess at cosmetic surgery is, if man brings a charge of blasphemy against you he hasn't got a leg to stand on. However, if my 'God', brought one against you, you'd not only lose both legs but you'd be right up to your neck in the mire, too. That's just my personal opinion.

Guess the legality of your motion is: ''did man make 'God?'' or did 'God' make man?''

A great philosopher once wrote: ''if 'God' did not exist it would be necessary to invent him!''
 
 LordDaniel  24 Sep 2009 22:41
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 You confuse me to no ends sir.
I personally do not believe that the Almighty God with the long hair and beard exists.
But the focus of beliefs that is in itself a thing, called God by so many people, yes would exist.
But I highly doubt it's supernatural powers, and I believe that man did indeed create God.
And thank you for posting an opinion.
by  ScottyRAWR
 24 Sep 2009 22:54
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Is it Blasphemy if you're an atheist? Or only blasphemy if you're a believer? Making it against the law is against all the freedoms we have fought so hard to keep! Ridiculous!
 
 hodver  26 Sep 2009 00:25
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 Rediculous but funny when this topic was spawned from a "This house would ban cosmetic surgery" debate.
by  justsumguy
 26 Sep 2009 00:30
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Like i've said before there are the religious out their who would love to bring back the good o'l days of pacifying freedom of expression.

The title makes my point that this type of thinking still exist and given the right leadership in certain countries this could happen as it happens in the middle east under Islamic rule.

DOWN WITH RELIGION!
 
 moreno  25 Sep 2009 17:52
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 You are correct that there are religious out their who would love to restrict freedom.

Only thing is, there are religious out there who oppose restricting freedom.

You on the other hand come across as one who would also love to restrict freedom. As most of us know, the religious who would love to restrict freedom do not have a monopoly on loving to restrict freedom. It's a human thing.
by  justsumguy
 25 Sep 2009 19:42
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No, blasphemy should absolutely not be illegal. People are allowed to believe anything they want, but that belief is not automatically held sacred, it can be and should be challenged, examined, taken apart, put back together and tested strenuously to see if it is factually true. If not, then it ought to be strongly criticized.
 
 Cephus  25 Sep 2009 16:04
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First anything and everything is relevant to debate (including personal beliefs or opinions) and it's up to each contestant to choose which combination of arguments will make the most persuasive case. Sometimes depending on the judge or audience you need to leave all beliefs and opinions off the arguments, other times those may be the appeals that win your case.

Second, in a democratic society with constitional protections to freedom of thought and speech then "blasphemy" simply cannot exist anyway. It is not blaspheming if you have a protected right to say and think what you want. A church or church goer could accuse you of blasphemy but it would have zero legal bite or implications whether the claim were true or not.

Third, in defense of cosmetic surgery consider 1) Some of it reconstitutes normal lives for people with terrible injuries and they have a right to medical help, 2) Both members of a couple may agree and benefit from one of them getting cosmetic surgery so what's wrong with that?, 3) Some people have noses or other features so oddly shaped it interferes with normal daily interactions with others (a witch style nose pointed down past the lips perhaps) and turning that feature into something more mainstream can enhance employability and even day to day face to face human interaction.
 
 Grenache  25 Sep 2009 11:14
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Definitely not. Freedom of speech and all that. Blasphemy laws should be confined to history where they belong.
 
 Evileye  25 Sep 2009 10:02
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I myself am a Christian, and still I feel that using God to state one’s case has no place in a debate unless the debate is about God. Or it becomes a three-ring circus. Since no one really knows God, those who use God in a debate can really say anything they want and ascribe it to God. It is an "undebate-like" and facile way to stymie the opposing group.
 
 tinseldove  25 Sep 2009 06:49
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Freedom of Expression. God has redeemed us from the mindset that my teeth will rot from my father eating grapes. So I am accountable for all I say and me alone. Blaspheme is illegal in heavenly terms. Our simple blaspheme are lies and gossip.
 
 gottfried  25 Sep 2009 04:44
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"Opinions", "facts", "beliefs" are all very important words, and how they are defined makes all the difference. Beliefs can be either true beliefs or false beliefs. (refer to Aristotle's view about what is truth). One may have good reasons for his beliefs i. E. Supported by facts and/or sound reasoning, but the view may still be a false belief. Someone else may have a true belief without really knowing or having any good reasons for that belief. Facts are reality, at least as best we can approximate reality. Sometimes we have the wrong facts or mispercieve or are given false data, etc. Opinion is subjective type of thinking, but one's opinion may be based on true beliefs or not. So it gets rather complicated. To say it is someone's opinion that God created man and assume it may not be based on sound evidence and reasoning could, itself, be considered rather prejudicial opinion without adequate evidence to back it up. On the other hand if the Christians believe that God created man and have good reasons for this belief, it does not necessarily follow that cosmetic surgery is wrong, etc. So, the advice is to try one's best to have clear thinking about things.
 
 charlee  25 Sep 2009 01:47
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Well in America there are many freedoms in the constitution but freedom from being offended is not one of them. In fact such a law would of necessity be directly contradictory to some of the freedoms that are guaranteed such as speech, religion, and potential freedom of the press. So any such law would be unconstitutional and illegal.
 
 finsch  24 Sep 2009 23:00
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 Thank you for your input.
And also thank you for putting it more maturely than I did.
I don't know why, but things seem to sound better in my own head.
At any rate, I'm grateful for your input.
by  ScottyRAWR
 24 Sep 2009 23:05
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Since this is my debate, I might as well voice my opinion.
Lord Daniel, while I respect your opinion, I have to disagree.
Something disagreeing with your own beliefs isn't ground for something to be illegal.
If someone said to me, "Your belief in the power of cake is complete and utter drivel"
I wouldn't then press charges.
I would show them the power of cake.
I also wouldn't want certain pieces of music being banned because they disagree with someone's beliefs.
Gay's wouldn't be allowed.
Neither would anything other than rich white people or rednecks in some cases.
I believe that beliefs should be kept in a private life.
And that making something illegal because it disagrees with your beliefs is in a fashion bubble wrapping religion.
They have believed through so much, a little more blasphemy will probably not traumatise them to the point of needing to press charges.
 
 ScottyRAWR  24 Sep 2009 22:46
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 Surely ScottyRAWR, I'm not to look upon everyone as my enemy who differs from me in opinion upon any point of religion, including blasphemy. I just think that my response to your debate is most probably the only logical conclusion one could reasonably come up with. However, as you suggest I could possibly be wrong?....;-)
by  LordDaniel
 24 Sep 2009 23:04
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