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The educational system should be more practical, indeed. But you have to look at the other views as
well. Yes, it does depend on the type of career you decide to take. However, when they teach you
something that has absolutely nothing to do with what you will be using in later life (sorry to say,
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I totally agree with this concept!!!! I mean how is knowing the pie number going to help us later
on?? How is being able to recite all the main dates in the Cold War going to help us?? There are a
list of things that i could mention learning that just wouldn't help us later on in life. And people
who have finished school have said that they have forgotten alot of it, the stuff they've remembered
they've never used and infact they just found it all a waste of time. I mean i know this sounds
stupid but they should talk more about relationships and stuff and leave the rest to us unless of
course you want to do something like teach in which case you'll have to learn all this pointless
stuff but other than that what is the point?? |
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Schools don't tech the right subjects in school they need to tech more essential classes on like art
cause i mean like who really is going to try to get into the art business when they get older |
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True.
We do not learn such things as Personal Finance, Communication, empathy, logic and facing problems
at school.
Why not? |
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I believe that from the time you enter high school, you should have somewhat of an idea in what you
are going to major in, and be able to fill yourself with the knowledge that will help you pursue
that degree. I, instead, have been taking advanced trigonometry classes, and chemistry classes,
while i should've been able to take bible and music classes, considering my major is within that
area. I think they teach too much classes that won't be useful, and not enough that we will need
someday. |
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I agree. Even my teacher says we'll never have to do some of this stuff again. If stuff were more
practical though, kids can have a better idea of what they want to be when they grow up |
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I think there should be more life skills like budgeting, finance, administration and communication
and even learning how to cook proper meals instead of cakes and biscuits and stuff. This type of
stuff would be valuable and help people more in their lives regardless of whether they were academic
or practical. |
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I agree..
Like what do u do if u were stuck alone in an island..
Believe it or not,
it happened..
My class was talking about this one movie from true story that the guy was stranded in an island
alone,
but he survived,
and then my classmate asked why is it not part of the curriculum how to live in a island..
It is just a good idea if we study about some practical things that we can use someday in life.. |
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I agree.. I want a career in Health when I'm older... Nothing i was taught in skwl is going to help
with that at all.. Cept social things like being around people.. That's it.. People wonder why so
many people bunk off skwl... Its because its sooooo boring! The same routine every single day...
Same lessons.. Nothings different..tho a lot of people don't like change.. A variety is better!
Cooking classes now consist of making a few pitta bread things which u stuff with a bit of cheese...
Or making pizza... With obesity on the rise.. We should be taught about healthy eating.. How to cook
healthy meals within a good price range which don't take 4ever to cook and how to maintain that sort
of lifestyle.. Also money management which.. With this credit crunch would help a lot...sex
education should actually be part of the time table.. And taken very seriously.. Not just flicking
through some booklets and people finding it funny.. Or putting a condom on sum rubber thing...
English shouldn't be about reading "of mice and men" and "inspector calls" and talking about them...
Science should b better as well...tho i must say i really did enjoy biology when i was at skwl...
Physics... The only thing i remember about that is the classroom being so hot you couldn't actually
work and no1 did anything bout it and chemistry.. Mixing a few chemicals about in a test tube and
watching them change colour WOW! ..We should also be taught how to manage in difficult situations
and realy realy prepare teenagers for when they leave skwl.. Ready 2 start college so the teens feel
confident that they are going to cope well. People who find it hard to concentrate and misbehave in
class need help too.. Not just being sent out the room or sent to "timeout".. Skwl is obviously not
for them,, and they would rather be out doing something contrastive like.. The boys who misbehave
should do wood work or what ever they want to when they're older... Something creative which they
can feel proud of.. And the girls who also have similar problems should b given the choice to do
things they would enjoy like a hair dressing course or something in fashion... Education does need
improving... Who wants to be stuck behind a desk for 6 or more hours a day with sum1 rattling in
your ear bout things which really don't appeal to you? |
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The one thing that schools really need to be teaching is critical thinking and logic. It isn't
enough to be able to parrot back facts, you need to know *WHY* those facts are facts and how you
tell the difference between facts and empty claims. Otherwise all you're turning out are mindless
drones. |
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I think that students should have their core classes specialized for them, according to what they
would like to do later on in life. As a middle school student, I find that Science and some Algebra
will not be useful to me considering the career path I'm planning to take. |
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The school systems today do not teach the subjects that we can benefit from when we get out of high
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Because we take stink-in biology
i mean when the heck are we gonna use this real life
we don't even have workshop at our high-school
how dumb is that |
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I agree completely. My chosen career does not involve half of the things that are taught in school.
I have thought several times on when Algebra will be applicable in everyday life. I'm not going to
go to the grocery store and add up my groceries using mx+b3=145. That is completely pointless. I
think that high school students should be able to choose every academic course. English, History,
and basic math should be the only mandatory subjects that are taught to every student. |
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When a graduate person goes to give the interview for job, does he is asked the Newton’s law of
motion? This is the basic query of many students that why not the schools do include those subjects
which are really useful in their later life. Subjects like finance management, typing, business
networking, time management and so on should be immediately included in the syllabus of school. With
the help of these subjects anybody can be sure of his ability of gathering knowledge. This knowledge
which is much needed in modern life will make a person complete in sense of today’s survival. But
today’s school is lacking in this field very much. Without leaving the hands of primitive
education system it is hard to create the perfect person in modern world’s context. |
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I definitely think that society should take over the educational system and create a school of life. |
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I am with you. There's things at school which don't be learning and some things which will be useful
in later life. |
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Originally the education system concentrated on the three R's reading, writing and arithmetic. The
world outside school provided the rest of a child's education. As the images of childhood have
altered so has the aim and role of education
Obviously schools now have a much greater range of subjects from many disciplines.
Grammar schools and private schools tend to concentrate on the academic achievers and avoid time
spent on the non - academic and this is fine for the youngsters who are going to go into higher
education and careers.
However everyone should know how to cook, eat sensible foods, do DIY etc.
Yes I think schools should spend more time giving practical advise and life skills, though some
would argue that it's in the home where this should be learnt.
Some youngsters would benefit a lot from less academic subjects and practical skills.
It's the ethos of what education should be about that needs examining and the role of all aspects of
education that needs addressing here. |
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I'm not suggesting ditching academic pursuits altogether, just striking a better balance between
academic and practical subjects.
I think the education system is currently pro-intellectualism, and the only people having their
creativity "crushed out" of them are those students that aren't suited to academic study, but don't
have the chance to express themselves any other way.
The anti-intellectualism in in wider society probably stems from the bad educational experiences of
people who have had 'book-learning' shoved down their throat from day one, when they'd rather have
been learning something more practical. |
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Hi, deef77, I totally agree with you. Education system should change and should be more practical. |
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Who agrees with me when i say it depends on the career you take |
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I think that some schools teach the skills needed.
I often find it really annoying that some schools teach some subjects, and others don't.
Despite saying that, although you do not need the all the algebra and science to get you into a
grocery store, schools prepare you for further and higher education. You already have the skills you
need to get into a grocery store.
Schools also prepare you for life a different way. It give you a chance to be around lots of people,
to learn how to make friends. These are skills which would be useful for later life. Nobody wants to
give a job to a surly-looking fellow who has no manners. |
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I think schools DO teach the skills needed.
Cooking. You can cook. Skills needed.
Reading - reading directions from a container or cook book.
Math is needed to understand units of measure, fractions, times and temperatures.
Science- combining ingrdiends in the order they will mix or blend the easiest. Knowing how acids
react with bases and how temperature effect the finished outcome. What temperatures things will
boil or freeze is science.
Art- making the food not only taste good but look presentable.
If you have studied these in school, you have the skills it takes to cook. |
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What do you want us to learn we do everything we need |
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Math is obviously a required subject. It's used in every job. English and Science are used a lot
too. Not only are they important in your job, but also teaching your kids about it requires a
greater understanding. |
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Um, how old are you? I am a recent high school grad and I was required to take classes on typing,
using common software, money management, etc. |
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For one thing, school teachers ranging from K4 to high school have no idea what their students are
going to do later in life. I agree that we need to change the American Education system in a way
that we learn more and actually want to learn something instead of teens dropping out. But why i'm
posting on this side is because what we are leaning in school is needed for life and that they also
have extra classes that we can take such as key boarding, computer classes, home ec, foods class,
etc. Just for those that are either interested in it or if they want to get a head start on subjects
related to what they are planning to take for their future career |
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I think you are mistaken about what school teaches children!!
It is not just about the maths or chemistry. It is about being in a social environment which teaches
you how to interact and work with people that you may not get on with. It teaches you enough life
skills that will develop your maturity therefore you don't need a teacher to teach you how to start
a business or manage finances, because you always work your way up, make mistakes and learn from
them, this will allow you to get by in life.
Incidentally schools do offer subjects such as business studies etc. Which gives you an idea of how
things like that work. But in all seriousness the tiny minority of people (i know there have been
some) start their own business when they are that young, it all comes with experience of life. |
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It just amazes me that people think they need a schoolbook, a school teacher and a school building
to learn! If you want to learn to cook, decorate, repair your window, etc - then take those
academic skills you were taught and use them to learn!!!
I teach my children to teach themselves. My 9 yr old can learn what he wants to and never gives a
thought to who will teach it. He knows that the library and book stores have books. He knows that
learning is about reading up on the subject and then getting some experience by actually
trying...not by having an older person stand in front of the classroom and read to you followed by
interpretation of what was read. US students are a frightening bunch, they need to get serious
about education. I'm sure other kids in other countries do too but I'm not seeing article after
pathetic article telling how terrible they are doing in school. |
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When I was in middle school, it was virtually mandatory for girls to take home economics: Cooking,
sewing, knitting and crocheting. (Boys were required to take auto- and wood shop or drafting.)
But the problem was, most of the foods they taught you to cook were things you’d never make in
real life -- who’s ever heard of “floating island”?
As for teaching fewer “academic subjects,” is that the “Three Rs“? Never as an adult have I
used geometry or chemistry, but doing basic math and reading are skills I use every day.
We’d be a lot better off if we taught ONLY the Three Rs!
As for managing one’s time and finances, that can’t really be taught in school. Those factors
are things every successful adult must learn to do on his/her own.
And decorating, that’s too broad a subject -- how can one teach the concept of “taste”? |
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I think maybe there are other places to can go to learn about what you said. But i do know that none
of that academic stuff is useless at all!
Think about it if you didn't do any of that would you be as smart as you are now? They teach you
that stuff more to get your brain working and thinking, it also helps with your people skills and
things like that. |
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No. Academic classes are essential at the high school level. The academic classes such as English,
Math, Science, and Social Studies all teach life skills that are useful later in life. Many people
do not see how they are useful, but the assignments you do in these classes teach you to read,
write, problem solve, analyze, and more. Yes, they should add more electives that will be useful in
life and work, but they should not eliminate any core academic classes. Students need to see how
these classes benefit them and how they could use what they learn in these classes in their everyday
life and work. I strongly believe that every class you take and everything you learn will benefit
you in one way or another in the future. |
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Schools already gives load of burden to students with geography, bio, English, chem, maths, physics
and etc etc. Students should learn somethings at home or by their surroundings....
Like typing, and how to start a new business.
While time management is learnt in school. There are students who are able to cope up with all the
burden, and some are able to manage.
Parents are always complaining about the burdens so i think school should be the way they are.. |
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I don't think it's up to schools to teach anything but academic and related subjects.
School shouldn't replace and take over what should be parental responsibilities.
Surely mothers and fathers should teach their children other skills such as cooking, home
improvement, sex education and the rest.
I know that all parents don't have all the skills for this but in the past children learnt about
them from life, relations, watching others, skills passed down through generations.
It's family life we should be looking at here. Children can use PC's and too often. If they weren't
in front of them and televisions so often they might learn more practical skills. Apprentice schemes
were wonderful and the government is talking about re-introducing them. This would be a great idea
for the young people who aren't academic. They need to bring back different sorts of schools to cope
with different needs too. |
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You have your whole life to do boring practical things like learn about tax returns, at least during
your schooldays you should be able to discuss interesting things like novels and historical events
before going out into the world and getting all your creativity crushed out of you. The idea that
our education system is "obsessed with academic subjects" is typical of British
anti-intellectualism. Reading books = a bit french. |
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10 Jan 2008 15:40
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