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| Same Sex Couples Do Not Make Good Child Rearers |
| I think to be a good parent, you need to be part of an ordinary one man and one woman couple, because children need role models. |
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A child needs a male for a fatherly role model and a female for a motherly role model. |
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I agree. A child will need a male role model and a female role model to grow up and follow because
they can learn different life skills from both. Also mums and dads have different raising methods
and the child can learn from each also the kid might get picked on |
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I think they can be respectful and helpful to a child, but the ideal situation is with a mother and
a father. |
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Adding that this child might grow up and have sexual problem and become a gay or a lesbian |
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I do not have enough information on this to give a definitive.
I do not know.
However, in lieu of information, I will go with the mores of proper man/woman home. Sounds
reasonable at this time, and is in consistency with what I am myself: Heterosexual person. |
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Researchers such as Lyle Pruett of Yale and Carol Gilligan of Harvard have documented thoroughly
(confirming ordinary common observation and experience) that mothers and fathers love differently,
although in complementary ways. Kids need the roughhousing and emphasis on justice of their fathers
as well as the tenderness of their mothers, and it's the lack of fathers nowadays that is the single
greatest social problem because it correlates the most closely with all the other social problems as
a causative factor. |
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I agree |
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I agree with that. Children are susceptible to kid`s`jokes and they can also suffer from this.
Although a child should have a mother and a father that is the law of God why can`t people respect
that? |
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Father and Mother is what God made and intended, not mom and mom or dad and dad. It is completely
unnatural for two of the same sex to be together married, let alone raising a child. It is just one
way our family is being destroyed today by satan himself. It is wrong whether you want to hear it
or not. |
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It has been going on since centuries that in order to ensure a good upbringing of a child a father
and mother’s love, affection, guidance and many other things are required. Previously it was not
there that in a couple both of them are from the same sex rather this was considered to an absurd
matter even 15-20 years back also. But now it has been proven medically that two individuals
belonging to the same sex can get attracted to each other and this can happen equally in cases for
both two males and two females. In both the cases conceiving a baby is not possible but in case of
upbringing here comes a problem because that becomes a not so easy task. For a child it becomes
confusing to understand as to whom to place in what position and this creates a very strange impact
on their mind. |
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It is my belief that same sex couples may be good people, they may be nice people, they may be
excellent examples of the human species but they are unable to offer a child what they need in terms
of gender role models. The absence of the male or female role model creates a knowledge and
experience vacuum for the child, they do not have the positive and reinforcing experiences of both
genders to go on.
A growing child needs to understand how men and women are supposed to behave. If two men or two
women bring them up, something is missing from their childhood development. They need to be around
people who teach them how their own gender behaves. I believe that the absence will impede their
natural development and understanding.
Same sex couples also bring up children who are just perfect targets for bullying. What could be
more of a target than a child with no mum and two dads. Does it not also promote homosexuality as a
norm, when it is obvious that it is not a social norm, but a perversion from the normal sexuality?
By perversion, I do not use the word as an insult, but as an indicator of the tangent that it makes
from the accepted social norms. A child needs to understand that whilst there is nothing wrong with
homosexuality that it is not the norm and that heterosexuality is the accepted social norm.
I believe that it is possible for same sex couples to bring up children, but I do not think that
they make great role models for their children. If they spent more time around straight men and
women it would be better for them. Rearing children is difficult and if they make a better job of
it than a straight couple fair enough, I just think that if it’s possible, they should only bring
up children in an environment with access to male and female role models. |
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Why? No difference. |
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So what if people like the same sex who cares. Just becuase some familys in the worlds the kids have
two dads or two moms doesnt mean they dont have good role models. Enyone could be good role models
even if theres just one person taking care of the kid. I believe its all in the raising if u let
your child get away with alot of stuff and let them run free sure there going to be bad kids and
maybe not but if you set a few rules and dont let ur child go wild then ur fine your fine u dont
have to have a mom and a dad to be a good role model. You just have to teach your child right from
wrong. |
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Like I tell my children if we were all the same this place we live would be a rather boring.
Homosexuals should be able to have children. They are homosexuals not child molesters. |
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Gays don't take turns feeding each others butts. One operates as the "pitcher" (the man) and the
other is the "catcher" (the female, if you will). In lesbian relationships, one is rather butch
(the male) and the other is less butch (the womanly one). These are same-gender roles that don't
change over time. To say that there needs to be role models for the child to understand is to say
that same sex couples are just as capable of child rearing as hetero parents.
It seems to me that all a stable and happy home requires is LOVE. Any family that can provide a
happy and loving environment for the children is a much better situation than MOST kids get.
A same sex couple that decides to adopt children has thought and planned about having kids more than
any hillbilly doin' it with their cousin. That's just common sense. Also, gay is programmed into
the person's genes. The child isn't going to be "infected" with gay. They just won't be as scared
of gays as the average American. |
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So... To be a good parent you need to be an "ordinary" family with one man and one woman. I guess as
a single mom I'm a pretty crappy mom then, huh? I'm a bad role model because I chose to raise my
daughter alone when her father got addicted to drugs?
All a child needs to be raised well is a safe place to live, food in their bellies, clothes on their
backs, and someone to love them. They don't need a mom *and* a dad to turn out "normal". Just a mom,
just a dad, 2 moms, or 2 dads are just as good as raising a happy family as a mom and a dad together
are. |
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I think this makes the children more accepting of the changes in our society. |
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Most traditional parents nowdays are lousy at raising kids. All you have to do is look around to see
that. |
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I would disagree with this statement because one can then assume that if a child isn't raised by a
father and a mother, that single parents cannot raise their children correctly either. If you agree
that a single parent can raise a child just as well, then you can agree that two men or two women
can raise a child just fine. If one is worried about the child turning gay because of the same sex
couples, tell me...what is so wrong with a child being gay? |
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Just as many situations can go wrong with a gay/lesbian couple raising a child as can go wrong with
a heterosexual couple. If the mother and father are lousy parents, then you're screwed.
Gays/lesbians would only have kids if they both agreed on having kids, however they intended. Don't
you think that this way the gay/lesbians' children would be better watched out for than having a mom
and dad who neglected their children? |
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Who says gays don't make good child rearers, if the child is loved and has to stable parents,
whether it be of the same sex or opposite where is the problem.
I can expect a response like, a child need a mother and father in its life to develop fully. Well no
because single parent families can get on just fine and the kids can be become brilliant in later
life. As for places where gays can adopt they seem to be doing a good job, its when bigots start
interfering that there is a problem.
Secondly, another response will probably be "oh my god, gays raising a kid, the kids going to be gay
or something." Because of course all straight couples raise straight children don't they, note the
sarcasm.
Gays can raise kids just as well as straight people. |
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They are just as good as any-one else! And they have as much rights as anyone else too! |
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It this a pun? "rearing"? Rofl if it is |
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I totally disagree with you, same sex couples can have pretty much the same influence on a child's
growing up as a usual man and woman couple, there are many single parents that would have the same
influence right? Its just one more same sex person to help |
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I don't think that sex has anything thing with bringing up kids.....its the love they give them and
the things they can provide for them....there are so many kids in faster care and up for
adoption...if there is someone out there to love them why not? |
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I can not go for this, because it is just ignorant to say such things... Any one can skew
statistical info to prove a fact these days... But no one can just create love out of the bloom. |
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And what exactly would prevent a gay person from potentially being a good role model? Integrity,
ethics and love are what really matters in a parent. If they have those qualities then they will do
the best job they can. |
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There have been numerous cases of mixed sex parenting that has gone terribly wrong involving abuse
and neglect. What kind of role models do these parents make? Don't get me wrong, there are also many
mixed sex couples (mine included) that are able to bring up their children as respectful,
intelligent and well-rounded human beings. Due to the difficulty for a same-sex couple to have/adopt
a child, the chances are that they have made the decision after a great deal of thought and
discussion and is certainly not something that they have entered into lightly, unlike many mixed-sex
couples nowadays, for example, teen pregnancies. I think that to say that same-sex couples do not
makes good 'child-rearers' is incredibly narrow-minded and does not take into account the many
richly diverse cultural factors that affect children today. I also would imagine that a child who
has been raised by a loving and caring same-sex couple would grow to be a far more intelligent and
accepting human being than you are. |
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A lot of the arguments I hear for this seem to assume that women shouldn't have jobs and should do
all the household chores and should stay at home. They also seem to assume that men have to be macho
and hide their emotions, and that men have to act a certain way.
Get over yourselves, people. It's already been proven that traditional gender roles aren't absolute,
and that child rearing is based more on individual qualities than on gender.
Yes, the kids are teased. They're also teased for having bad eyesight, for liking different things,
for being individual instead of conforming, for not being extremely social, just because, etc. Kids
will be mean. Having gay parents is just one excuse of millions to bully someone.
And why in all the hells is a lower birth rate a problem?!?!?! The world could use a lower birth
rate! We're overpopulated as it is!
There are problems within all relationships. Parents fighting. Parents divorcing. Parent(s) never
having been there in the first place. Children being neglected. This happens in heterosexual
relationships, too, you know.
One thing: Being taught to bottle up emotions until you snap and kill someone (as seems to be the
norm for teaching men) isn't very good. Everyone of both genders needs to be taught it's okay to cry
every now and then. It's okay to show your emotions. It's also okay to stand up for yourself, and to
carve out your own identity.
Plus, same sex couples adopt children that would otherwise be living on the streets, in orphanages,
or being rotated through foster homes. How can a loving household, no matter the sexuality of the
parents, be any worse than that? Is it better to have no role models than to have role models from
only one gender? I'd think not.
And by your argument we shouldn't allow single parents to raise kids either, huh? Should a woman
have her kids taken away from her just because the father up and vanished? The kids would be raised
with only one gender as a role model then, after all. Should fathers who's wives die or leave have
their children taken away? If parents divorce, and one finds a partner almost instantly, even if the
original parent was never a good parent and their spouse hates kids, should the children be given
into the care of the parent that left their other parent for someone else? Even if neither would
likely give them the love they need?
Please don't go arguing that homosexuality is wrong... If you want an argument on that, please check
out one of the other debates. I'm too tired to argue the whole thing right now.
And please reply with something other than religion to back up your opinion.
Any other arguments? |
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That's far too much of a generalization. I've seen gay couples who are fantastic parents and hetero
couples who can't parent for beans. You can't judge like that. And about role models...it's not like
the kid lives in a bubble. I mean, they get out and see other people that can and will eventually
become role models for them. |
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They make as good child rearers as heterosexual couples. Since both genders can love I don't see why
they wouldn't be. |
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What a load... Yes a child with same sex parents could be open to a lot more teasing from there
peers but at the same time could be brought up to be by far more open-minded to the differences in
people around them thus teaching others about acceptance. I do not see anything wrong with 2 people
of the same gender raising a child, I do not see how they would not make good role models. You
cannot base a persons morals/scruples based on there sex life. I honestly would prefer to see a
couple of the same sex raising a child in a loving environment rather than seeing a child being
neglected or in a system. How is 2 same sex parents any worse than single parent homes? All present
different challenges and all are just as honourable. It is to be perfectly honest people that agree
with this that are teaching there children its ok to hate and make fun of those who are different.
So please explain to me how your any better? |
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There are many families with single moms or dads yet the children come out completely functional.
Let us look at criminals many of whom had a mom and dad at home yet look at them. Even if both
parents are the same sex their are other ways for the child to get a role model of the same sex. For
instance if it's two men and the child is a girl their are female family members and or friends. |
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This is not true, study shows that same sex couples actually had more success raising a child. |
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From what I've witnessed - neither do heterosexual couples. |
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This is ridiculous because a child brought up in love whether two men two women or a man and a woman
does not matter and is way better than today. So we turn away from people who love our children and
putting them in the hands of drug dealing fathers strung out mothers rapists uncles and emotionally
scarring aunts as well as the harsh reality of the system where they think no one loves them??? |
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This is ridiculous just because somebody is a man or a woman doesn't effect how good of a parent
they are |
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Research underway and completed today shows that same-gender families are in fact more healthy for
children when compared with the same number and percentage of opposite-gender families.
IN SAME-GENDER HOMES:
Children are more nurtured by BOTH parents who share equally in the time and quality of time with
their children. (How many heterosexual homes are there where the working father spends an average
of 15 minutes a day with his children; and where both parents work, how long: Not much.
Children in homosexual families are taught positive values and morals of society that lead to
healthy adults who are making positive decisions and actions in all aspects of their lives.
Children in homosexual families do not become homosexuals any more often as children in heterosexual
families (17% of population is gay, therefore as many as 17% of families have a gay child who may or
may not choose to 'come out.'
Children homosexual families know that their parents care for and about each other because they are
more affectionate with each other and toward their children. Whereas, "the honeymoon is over' early
in the marriage of heterosexuals who seldom show affection to each other by the time their kids
start school.
Divorce in a homosexual family occurs less often than divorce in heterosexual families.
There's more to come in research that shows that homosexual families are healthier than heterosexual
families. The old idea that a child needs to be raised by both a mother and a father has lost it's
accuracy since long ago when single divorced mothers have raised their kids without fathers visiting
or caring or paying financial support. (I did that and my 4 yr old, now 36, seldom saw her father
at his choice and now doesn't care to...he has not seen, called nor written for 11 years). |
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I don't agree because I am a parent. I guess all single mothers and fathers have a problem raising
normal kids too, and let's not forget widows, or men who have lost their wives. That is a very
narrow minded way to think, In my opinion you should broaden your perspective, and spend some time
with children of these families, and dedide then for yourself. |
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I understand this is still a relatively new social practice, at least for the public to see more and
more 'out' gay and lesbians. I agree that it is too early to tell what these children will grow up
to be like... But without giving the gay and lesbians a chance, how are we as humans, supposed to
grow and learn? I think banning them because it's not the middle class white man woman relationship
would be like banning single women and men from raising children, or banning interracial couples.
Human life is about dignity, and every time we tell someone they can't participate in something
everyone else is doing, is lowering that dignity. It's just about fear- people are fearful of being
out of 'their' norm. |
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There are many same sex relationships which would provide a loving home for children.
I think it would be better for a child in care to be with two people who would provide love,
stability and security in their young life.
As in any relationship ,there's always the risk that a couple will separate and the child always
suffers under these circumstances.
Our ideas of the perfect family don't often match reality. Not all fathers are good role models, or
do they all treat women well. Not all career women are bad mothers, not all stay at home mothers
cope well. Each situation is different.
In the past it was often the 'norm' for children to be brought up in female dominated households
due to warfare and high death rates of both men and women. Same sex situations are not new. It's the
relationships within them that are different now.
Until a high proportion of same-sex couples have reared children for a longer period we will not
have a real idea of the implications of these family units. Once the children themselves grow up and
give their own voice to this debate we can make more informed statements on it. |
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A child needs parents of both sex to progress normally in life. The situation has become even worse
with the recent cases of same sex partnerships breaking down with the leaving party not realising
their responsibilities towards the children in their care forcing the burden onto the sperm donor or
the state. |
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I mean no offense, but the 'social norm' may be considered heterosexuality, but what is normal? In
this case, I would think it would be that there are more heterosexual couples. I would suggest we
all do some research..on gay couples vs. Normal couples on child rearing, and see how they turned
out. Then we would have stats, instead of just ideas. Being able to have a child is something that
should be denied to no one who is fit to raise and rear them, in my opinion. Look at single
mothers/fathers. While they may lack the influence of the opposite gender on their children (if the
father/mother was gone, for what ever reason, while the child was at an early age or not born yet) i
have not seen any suggestions that the child lacked the proper lessons needing to be learned from
both their parents. |
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30 Dec 2007 23:15
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