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Certainly. Some right wing nuts. I'm a christian but i would like to remind you people came up with
religion. Neither God nor jesus came up with religion
that i can honestly blame on catholics/ |
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Religion IS selfish..........
But, as a human being surving life on this planet, you have to have a Self in order to even exist
here in the form of human flesh alive.
So, in some basic sense at least, selfishness is a virtue.
Virtue is it's own reward: Prolonged longevity and success.
So, be selfish, and enjoy your religion, I say.
"for that is the whole duty of man (to fear God and keep His covenant)". (Ecclesiastes). |
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I would have to agree with this. I am a christian, and i love God.
But it is obvious that Christians are selfish. Well, most of the Christians out there just say they
are Christians, compared to the true Christians who actually try not be selfish, but want to have a
heart of God, where they give all they can give, and love all they can love.
But yeah, since Christians are humans, they tend to be selfish, because no matter how much people
want to do right, it will still happen where people think more of themselves over others. |
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At it's core, religion and religious belief is very selfish, it's intended to answer questions about
the world in a manner that is comforting to the indivldual, regardless of whether or not it's
factually true. Beyond that, as the OP says, how ridiculous is it to think that you have the
creator of the universe on your side? That's how wars, racism, sexism, and all forms of hatred get
started, thinking "God said I'm special, therefore I'm better than you." |
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I think this is quite a profound insight. The essence of religion is the view that what we do, and
even what we think, really matters. The alternative view, that we are just poor, helpless creatures
adrift in a frightening world, buffeted by random dangers, with no one who watches over us or even
cares about us, for many people, is too scary to be contemplated. |
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I definitely agree with this. I saw a video in which a woman who survived 9/11 claimed that God had
saved her...how selfish is that? Is she suggesting that God decided to save her over the other
thousands that died?
When people say God loves them and has a special relationship with them and purpose for them they
are definitely being selfish. What is God's purpose for a severely disabled person or an African
child who will die of starvation? Does God have a special loving relationship with a paedophile or
rapist?
I am largely referring to Christianity here. |
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Seems that within 2 sentences, you couldn't stay on topic here....The title is one subject and your
comment a completely different topic.
You know it says in the Bible that a DOUBLE MINDED person is UNSTABLE in ALL his ways.
Topic 1: Religion is selfish......religion is a belief system and selfishness is a human
characteristic, that his nothing to do with a system of belief, other than the Bible saying the we
should deny the flesh (human characteristic) and walk in the spirit (which is an inside job)
If anyone had been able to fulfill the scriptures, then Jesus would not have HAD to die on the
cross. Jesus told Peter that He was going to die on the cross and "for this purpose, I came into
this world"...jist is there, may not be an exact quote..easy to look up.
Yes He CHOSE to let the Romans and Jews judge and convict and hang Him on the cross, to fulfill
scripture.
Topic 2: If Jesus being perfect (perfect example of how to live) had a PURPOSE to suffer and die,
what makes you think that God doesn't have a purpose for others who suffer and die.
What you should be asking is why YOU haven't been suffering and dying, and living the life of luxury
you live. |
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- Red Cross
- YMCA
- Abolition of the Slave trade
- Salvation Army Thrift stores
- Organisations such as Worldvision, and 30 hour famine.
- Women's rights movements
- Most US ivy league universities, in fact most modern universities were founded by men who were
devout Christians.
Contrary to popular atheistic propaganda, devout Christians were the cause of most of the morally
good advancements in society.
Christianity, as the Bible explains it, is not selfish, it is totally the opposite. However,
Christians are humans who often have selfish motives for their actions. A system of belief cannot be
judged by those who follow it poorly. |
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Just because you are not of religion doesn't mean you should critasize it. You have no idea what it
is like! |
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Good religion encourages spiritual principles that go contrary to our instinctual impulses. Our
instinctual impulses are our selfish and even Darwinian responses from our nature. |
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No, it isn't. If religion is so selfish, why did Jesus let himself by tortured to death? |
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Christ said the two greatest commandments are to love God and love others. Selfishness, in the
sense of self-centeredness, is the antithesis of Christ's teachings, therefore, the Christian
religion does not promote selfishness. |
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I've got to disagree. While it has it's dark sides, the good religion does for people is undenyable.
While I'm not advocating organised religion, I can recognise that it is capable of helping people. |
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