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Religion Has No Place In Politics
SI think it can be agreed that the founding fathers of both great nations, USA and Canada, had agreed and stated before that religion has no place in politics, so why are all Americans hypocrites then?
 coelho  17 Mar 2009 17:26
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It's in the constitution.
 
 yu_yevin  17 Mar 2009 23:41
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 What is? Religion's only mentioned once throughout the entire constitution.
by  Hizashi
 18 Mar 2009 00:31
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I agree. A country that has many different religions within it cant be governed by one specific one or else a lot of people will be angry.
 
 mariafu  17 Mar 2009 23:00
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 I've yet to find a country where a lot of people aren't angry. Except in Canada, they're only angry on Hockey Sundays.
by  Homestar
 18 Mar 2009 01:24
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All Americans are hypocrites just as all people are hypocrites. It’s intrinsic to the human condition. However A) Most Americans believe in the separation of church and state B) Disagreeing with our illustrious forefathers does not make you a hypocrite unless you feel that Martin Luther King Jr. And Susan B. Anthony were hypocrites.
 
 finsch  17 Mar 2009 19:01
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I would also think that politics has no place in religion? Haha. But it is hard to avoid since they collide indirectly over certain issues...
Nice point cephus
 
 gottfried  17 Mar 2009 18:30
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Obviously, not all Americans are hypocrites, many recognize that the separation of church and state is extremely important and that the government was intended to be, and must be, secular in it's views. Of course, when there's as much money and power in religion as there is, it's hardly surprising that the churches want to be able to exercise political power as well and they've trained their sheep to think that the way the churches teach ought to be pushed on everyone in a political fashion.

It's all delusion, luckily we have the courts to largely keep it in check.
 
 Cephus  17 Mar 2009 18:24
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 Same exact thing can be said about the "non-delusional" groups.
by  justsumguy
 17 Mar 2009 23:35
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I'll second Justsumguy and third Grenache.
 
 Hizashi  18 Mar 2009 00:30
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I agree with Grenache but I'm probably more hardline.

The founding fathers thought no such thing (maybe a few). Separation of church and state was chiefly addressing "nationalized" religion. We're all Roman Catholic or Protestant (depending on who has the most power) or we face the consequences.

I would say that the crux of the ideal would be that religion is not forced upon anyone.

I have no desire to be in politics but I could bring my "religion" into politics, the government and the presidency. My religion is anti-force and coercion.
 
 justsumguy  17 Mar 2009 23:34
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It's ironic that I'm posting against because I'm a very strong advocate for the separation of church and state. My problem with your topic is the word "politics" instead of "government". In politics a person can run for absolutely anything for absolutely any reason so I think religion does indeed have a valid place in politics if candidates choose. HOWEVER, I think the elected government itself and the laws it lays down need to be objective and fair for all regardless of religious belief so it's actually the government which religion has no place in.

(But, maybe I'm just quabbling over words so I'm sorry if it comes across that way. In spirit I agree with keeping religion in church and out of city hall).
 
 Grenache  17 Mar 2009 20:09
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