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Property Is Theft.
It is no more right that a person can claim exclusive ownership over a piece of the earth than they can of the air or sea. Property, through laws, alienates the majority from benefit or access in the interests of the few who are owners.
 Oswy  04 Jun 2008 11:58
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I agree, and I think it was Karl Marx who made this statement. However, I could be wrong.
 
 joe9  17 Jul 2008 16:23
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You can't ever own land. To own the land you would have to have power over every last aspect of it. You would have to know of the bugs crawling through it and their location at every moment. So your right we as humans don't own the land. We sorta just sit on it and its our own egotisticalness that lets us think that we can ever truly own it and our constitution that says we can kick people off our borrowed land.
 
 Smito  11 Jun 2008 15:24
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 Except that legal ownership alienates it from access by others.
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 16 Jun 2008 21:51
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Property here means the ownership of land - hence my reference to 'a piece of the earth'. People don't read enough.
 
 Oswy  11 Jun 2008 15:05
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If you have the military personell necessary to defend a piece of land, then you can make whatever laws you want regarding ownership of small bits of that land.
 
 ur_wrong  27 Aug 2008 01:11
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Capitalism works socialism does not. History is testimony to this. The poor people in capitalist societies are much better off than any others. Yes it's true they may get a smaller proportion of the pie, but its a bigger pie they are eating from. The land is best worked under those who know how to work the land, everybody benefits from this.
 
 Kirsty08  19 Jul 2008 21:01
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The problem of the socialistic ideal is that it hinges on either, a) the natural goodwill and organizational skills of humanity or b) on a huge intrusive governmental machine in order to exist in the practical world. Of those two choices one is pure fantasy and one is extremely undesirable, at least to me.
 
 finsch  19 Jul 2008 20:04
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I don't agree with the argument that if you don't work you die. It does not even take great wealth to buy a house.
People went to America and staked their claim, made a living and raised a family. I can't see why it is theft to own a home. It is a far better concept than renting a home. Hand all the money over to someone else who owns the house you live in.
 
 keepmindok  18 Jul 2008 16:28
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This is such a lovely little hippy concept that is completely ridiculous in the real world. I own things as a reward for working. As does everyone else, including you. It isn't really worth arguing with this level of daftness, you don't even believe it yourself.
 
 StBalders  04 Jun 2008 14:18
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 Sorry i don't award people for what is expected of them. Your award for working is the ability to survive if you don't work you have no food/water and die. But then again if you did die it would really affect the world at all so have at it buddy.
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 11 Jun 2008 15:34
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Whilst in principal, I think the idea of what you wrote has some merit, because it is undeniable that capitalism creates the haves and the have nots, the reality is that it has value also. Capitalism is what makes the world develop and progress. The key thing here is that the non ownership of anything is heading down the path of communism, whereby nobody really owns much, the state owns it all...is that how you see our lives would be better??? It also answers the other comment posted about should the coal mining company do it for free if they can't own the coal, as in the communist idealogy, the state would own the mine (therefore sell the coal) and the miners would be paid by the state.
 
 smarty  04 Jun 2008 14:11
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I assume this also applies to societal ownership of property. If the owner is the society, then other societies don't have access to the goodies, either. By the way, what kind of stereo do you own, I would like to come and take it since you don't believe in property ownership.
 
 charlee  04 Jun 2008 13:57
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Are you suggesting that nobody should own anything? Your argument would have to apply to all inanimates to make any sense; for instance coal is mined from the earth and sold, if the miner doesn't own the coal how can he sell something he doesn't own in the first place? But people need coal [only an example so don't go green on me], so the miner provides coal. Are you suggesting he does it for free?
 
 Wulmiester  04 Jun 2008 13:46
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