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Philosophy Should Be Given Higher Priority In Schools Than It Is Currently.
People underestimate how interesting and informative the subject is, and I thank its validity is far more than that of, for example, Art or Geography.
 sceptic101  06 Apr 2008 17:04
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I as a wise old man , obviously wiser than any of you will ever be.
Excuse my big ego, have seen a lot in this world, and with my experience.

It is inevitable conclusivly that this should be true.
 
 Philosophe  10 Feb 2017 15:36
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 Big egos result from small penises.
by  OD
 10 Feb 2017 18:51
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Philosophy makes you think and develops the mind..it also morally prepares you
 
 wush  01 Mar 2010 06:10
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I agree that Philosophy should be given higher priority in school. It is useful and important to develop the knowledge and skills to define your approach to life as well as understand the philosophies of those around you. However Art, at its best is a practical application and communication of one’s philosophy and ultimately what you do is more important than what you think. So I am forced to disagree with your specific reference in that regard.
 
 finsch  06 Sep 2008 17:29
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 Art in school is not 'a practical application and communication of one’s philosophy', but merely a soft subject for those that are good at drawing.
by  sceptic101
 07 Sep 2008 13:19
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I was offended by the slur on Art and Geography, but I was so pleased by the Philosophy part that I decided to forgive you and comment :-)

Ayn Rand, and the movie "The Matrix" #1, are the two best sources of Philosophical commentary.

Ayn Rand, and I quote: "Hatred of the good, because it is the good" (why lesser mortals hate the talented and intellectual).
The Matrix;Morpheus: "it's like a splinter in your mind; something's wrong but you don't know what it is"......and also I quote, Morpheus(Laurence Fishbourne): "you stay and see just how far the rabbit hole goes"(to Neo;Keanu Reeves).

With Philosophy, as Poetry, you get to see just how far down the rabbit hole goes like Alice in Wonderland/Matrix.

I vote for Philosophy. We can find out about the rabbit hole together, in debate of Philosophy.

"The truth is out there" ;-)
 
 Scorpion  05 Sep 2008 08:29
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 Surely you cannot claim that art and geography are as useful and important as philosophy?
by  sceptic101
 06 Sep 2008 15:35
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I couldn't agree more. Philosophy opens up thinking in a critical way. It makes a person think beyond the simple material world that so many dwell in and look at things in a new way. More importantly than the actual philosophies that would be discussed, would be the actual process of thinking in a different direction than most students are accustomed to. It allows the mind to open and actually think. It is the only way to truly attempt independent thinking, and learn how much you actually don't know. Yes.

Although i think geography is pretty important too.
 
 innomen  25 May 2008 22:13
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 Indeed, innomen; my view on geography is so controversial I daren't start a debate on it.
by  sceptic101
 26 May 2008 12:22
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I am all for more cerebral subjects being taught in school. Children today are still being churned out thinking along similar lines to the way they always have (boys must be tough and into sports etc).
The only way to improve this is by better education, but sadly I don't think this will ever happen because we've had long enough to do it and things are, if anything, getting worse.
 
 Jahwobble  13 Apr 2008 01:01
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Absolutely! This give children and teens tools for expanding their minds. Critical thinking teaches them to ask questions and demand answers, I believe it would also increase voter turn out by encouraging them to become passionate about something then standing up for it. And I don't feel that religious folks should fear a philosophy it could actually help them understand why their faith is theirs an feel empowered by that.
 
 dmadney  11 Apr 2008 04:35
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Philosophy is a great way for developing logical thinking. It enables you to think 'outside the box' when debating or giving a simple talk.
Philosophy also helps us understand things we hardly thought were possible yet are logical. Yes, Philosophy is based a lot on theory and does question things we possibly are uncomfortable to question, however when these are questioned and an answer is taken from it, we feel as if we have a sound understanding of the subject at hand.
For these reasons i agree with sceptic101 and believe that philosophy should become a greater priority in the school curriculum.
 
 jordibro1  10 Apr 2008 21:42
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It depends on what you mean by philosophy. A lot of it is, indeed, bunk, but if you mean teaching critical thinking, logic and rationality, then I'm all for it. School shouldn't be just about what to think, but *HOW* to think, how to examine claims critically, how to question and how to come to a conclusion based upon the merits of an argument. Those things are overlooked far too often.
 
 Cephus  07 Apr 2008 02:47
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 Cephus, you understand my point completely.
by  sceptic101
 07 Apr 2008 10:59
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Philosophy should, indeed, be emphasized more in the secondary school curriculum. Studying philosophy is important, not so much for the actual content being examined, but for the critical thinking skills that it imparts. Additionally, studying changes in philosophical thought provides the necessary background and context to everything, from science and match classes, to history, art and geography.

Those on the other side of this debate--who think that philosophy is little more than erudite hog-wash and support concentrating on science instead--should ask themselves why society places such a high value on all things that are quantifiable? If they were to take a philosophy course, they would learn how western society gradually moved away from qualitative thinking patterns to the world of the quantitative. In other words, our society, and just about any rational westerner's thinking pattern, is based on counting everything, including time. Yet quantitative thinking was hardly the default position for humans; it developed over time, and influenced our beliefs, economies and societies. Taking philosophy courses makes the student better understand and appreciate how knowledge is imparted in all other courses.
 
 mackenzie  06 Apr 2008 18:48
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 Mackenzie, I couldn't agree more.
by  sceptic101
 07 Apr 2008 12:35
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Geography is the fourth most wanted subject outside of maths, English and science, to employers, and moreover philosophy is more difficult for most students in schools.
 
 Balance_92  06 Sep 2008 13:53
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 Please agree or disagree with the motion, Balance_92, not my slightly invalid additional comments. Why shouldn't philosophy be recognised by the government more than it is currently?
by  sceptic101
 06 Sep 2008 14:11
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‘Philosophy’ the word has a vast meaning. The entire theory of life is based on Philosophy; a child is learning Philosophy from his mother’s lap. In the school all the subjects teach him some or the other values of life, moreover there is a special subject called Moral Values which teaches all the basic philosophies of life and moulds the child in such a way that he grows up to be an ideal citizen of the country. If Philosophy is introduced as a compulsory subject and given higher priority the child will lose interest in it and instead of absorbing the good values he will learn it only for examination sake and then discard it off like worn out clothes. It is better that a child learns philosophy in his daily endeavor rather than learning it as a subject and developing distaste for it.
 
 sudipa  15 Apr 2008 11:45
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 I agree with you whole heartedly. If you wish to engage in a in depth and profound conversation talk with your peers about the idea rattling around up there. Gain some perspective on it or even sit in an empty room and play with your thoughts. If you really enjoy those kinds of subjects you can pursue them if you truly want to. Philosophy won't help you budget you money, but should at least be seen as an art.
by  Specter87
 29 Aug 2008 02:15
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Philosophy is bunk. Abstract thought for the sake of abstract thought is laughable. Most of the people who are esteemed today as great philosophers of the past, such as Plato, would not be philosophers if they were alive today. They would be scientists. They were people who were trying to arrive at a practical understanding of the world. They were grasping mistakenly towards our modern scientific view of things. Their work has some historical curiosity value as the history of pre-science, but no more than that.

It's wasteful and self-indulgent for anyone to waste their time on philosophical gobbledygook when they could be studying something with practical value. Our civilisation faces the gravest crisis in all of its history - catastrophic climate change. Students should be studying science to try and find a technological solution to our world's problems, not engaging in intellectual onanism by studying "philosophy".
 
 Hidell  06 Apr 2008 17:56
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 Any decision one ever makes in one's lifetime is based on some form of philosophy. By this, I deduce that 'good' philosophies in life lead to 'good' decisions, and those decisions are essential in order to build a generation that will take it upon themselves to, for example, combat climate change. Contemplating life would, I believe, help many children who otherwise would not know what it entails. Mackenzie said it well; philosophy helps with any other subject the pupil wishes to pursue.

'Philo' is Ancient Greek for 'love', and 'sophy' means 'wisdom'. Therefore, one can assume that philosophy is a love of wisdom. Can you think of anything more important in today's world than wisdom?
by  sceptic101
 06 Apr 2008 19:56
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I say no because all the ones we have here and free classes/wasted time. And the teacher is freaking annoying
 
 JCMS  06 Apr 2008 17:39
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 Oh, what a good argument! 'The teacher is freaking annoying'!
by  sceptic101
 06 Apr 2008 20:42
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