People Who Don't Tip Are Cheap And Lame.

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I feel if you get good service and good food that you should always leave the server a tip. Servers make minimum wage and depend on their tips to live. People who don't tip are cheap. Go the fast food route if you don't want to leave a tip. Agree or not?

scorpioCH

25 May 2008 07:22

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Omg those are the people that go to thrift world and the goodwill 'my grandmother"

Lawyer

18 Aug 2008 07:07

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Good service deserves a good tip. If the service is bad I will tell the server when they bring me the check what they did wrong what they should have done and that they are not getting a tip for these reasons and also that next time I am there I hope they will perform better so that I can give them a tip. I usually tell them I also reward the fact that they try harder mainly so they don't spit in my food the next time but also to improve the service I receive.

boy2girl31

02 Jul 2008 04:27

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I agree. People work hard for those tips in front and behind the scenes. It is important to embrace this and learn how to tip correctly.

Tepal

17 Jun 2008 03:53

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I quite like the idea of tipping, but you septics need to realise it is mostly an American ideal. I think it works well and gives an incentive to the employee to offer a good service because they know the more they do the better the tip will be. I am one for tipping a job well done.

I found the customer service in the US streets ahead of the cruddy service we get in the UK. The only downside is some expect a tip for doing nothing. I had a taxi driver drive me all over LA costing me twice as much as it should have done then he had the nerve to criticise me for not giving him a tip. I gave him a tip by telling him to **** off immediately.

Another thing I think is wrong is if an eatery adds a 10% service charge on. This way the service could be rubbish and yet they still expect you to pay. If that happens I will refuse to pay it out of principle.

StBalders

28 May 2008 14:33

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Sounds to me like your taxi driver took advantage of you. He probably thought that since you weren't from America you wouldn't notice that you were being "taken for a ride", so to speak. And I agree with you, the taxi driver did not deserve a tip.

scorpioCH

11 Jun 2008 08:20

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Of course people should tip their server! They are serving them! They are providing a service for you. That's why they check on you, bring you things, be friendly etc. If you just want your food with out the service than go to McDonalds. You should feel embarrassed if your one of those people out there who go out to eat and ask for everything under the sun and leave without tipping the server. You have no CLASS!!!!

prc1030

27 May 2008 05:58

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I think that most of you posting against it are missing the entire point. You are receiving a service from your waiter or waitress. You are only paying for the food, not the service. I am in full agreement that if you get bad service then you shouldn't leave a tip, but if the server does his or her job then you should. I think lots of people use the excuse "I got bad service" just because they are, in reality, cheap. In lots of states employers are allowed to only pay their servers $2-$3 an hour because they work a tippable position. Good servers work hard to please their customers and make sure they enjoy their time in the restaurant. Good servers want customers to come back. They deserve a tip.

scorpioCH

25 May 2008 22:40

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I agree that if you receive good service and food you should be tipping, but I also think that there are servers out there who are of the misguided belief that they are good servers when in reality they are providing piss poor service. An excellent example of this would be one time when my fiance and I went out for dinner and the waitress spent more time talking to her co-workers then paying attention to us. I had to ask half a dozen times for my Ice-Tea and to get the salad I had ordered. She also brought the wrong main meals, was rude and just generally not good at her job. I did not tip and as we were leaving I heard her call me a cheap b*tch. I refuse to tip when she doesn't even deserve the hourly wage she is receiving.

Untoldrose

25 May 2008 08:03

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I agree with you. I have worked, and actually still do, with some of the very servers that you describe. I lobby my boss daily to get them removed from the dining room floor. Some bosses care, others don't. They impact the money that I make because they drive customers away from the restaurant. And the funny thing is, it's some of these very servers that complain they can't make any money.

scorpioCH

26 May 2008 06:57

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Waitstaff who think that their choice to work for dirt cheap is the customer's problem are lame. If you want better pay either work it out with your boss or find a better paying job; don't blame the customers for the fact that you chose a low paying job.

dlmiller82

08 Sep 2009 23:55

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Not all the time.

Sinner

22 Oct 2008 19:32

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I hate the idea of variable costing when it comes to my hamburger.

Specter87

18 Sep 2008 18:24

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Not really

higack

25 May 2008 14:23

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I've noticed that you always contribute so much to the debates you post in.....geez....

scorpioCH

26 May 2008 07:03

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In some countries, giving tips is considered offensive and insulting to staff.

Intuition

25 May 2008 13:52

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Really, the restaurant should pay their workers full wages. If tips are given, they should be considered gifts, not wages.

BullDog

25 May 2008 13:58

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Ok, your right. There is no country designated in my debate post, and I'm sure that different countries have different customs as far as tipping goes, but I think we all know the general country that we are talking about here.

I don't think that prc1030 should or can explain about the many people in the world that you describe. You, like everyone else that has posted against this debate need to re-read the opening sentence- it says good service and good food deserve a tip. Nowhere in the debate topic does it say anyone should leave a tip for bad service or just because it's expected.

And servers aren't "usually nice" because their job depends on it. I work with servers who get to keep their jobs when they provide poor service on a daily basis. It's called "poor management" for lack of a better term.

And, as for your final statement I'd like to ask you a question- what determines if you like a place? Is it the music they play? The color of the tables and chairs? I'd be willing to bet the answer is whether or not you enjoyed the food you ate and the service you got while you were eating it.

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Perhaps if you feel "guilty" for not tipping then you fall under the banner of a "cheap person". Since you say you live in Europe I'll cut you a little slack for it though. I realize tipping probably isn't a huge custom where you live.

But to clear up the "guilt" point you raise, most people in America don't leave a tip because they feel guilty if they don't. Most leave a tip because they appreciate the good service that they got while eating their meal. And lots of people return to the same restaurant and request the same server because they know they will get great service. In the business we call those kind of customers "regulars". And "guilt" has nothing to do with them leaving a tip.

And, again I must state, YOU are not paying for employees. You are paying for the food. The service you get is an entirely different manner. According to you I guess my minimum wage should cover me running my ass off for you to keep you happy while you eat. Don't think so.

Service must be really bad in most other parts of the world for people to have some of the attitudes I'm seeing posted here.

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I agree with Jakers. If your service is good and you enjoyed your dining experience, then you should give a tip. On the other hand, if the service was poor and you were unsatisfied, then you should not leave a tip. People should have to work for their money. Why should you have to leave a tip if you are not satisfied with the service? This is like saying you work hard for your money, but others do not have to work hard for money. So, if you get good service, then tip away. However, if your service is poor, you should not give a cent. If you work hard for your money, you deserve to be treated like a king or queen in a restaurant, otherwise, the restaurant does not really value you as a customer.

BullDog

25 May 2008 13:40

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Treated like a king or queen might be pushing the boundaries of reality, but a good server will always make sure that you are satisfied and taken care of. Good servers often take it personally if they feel like a customer is unsatisfied or they feel like they haven't provided the level of service the customer deserves. And no good server would ever expect a tip under those circumstances.

scorpioCH

26 May 2008 07:01

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I only tip people if I feel they have done a good job, why should I give away my money to someone who ruined my meal with incompetence or rudeness? I advise you watch the diner scene in Reservoir Dogs. Listen to Steve Buscemi's speech about tipping. He makes a valid point.

Jakers

25 May 2008 12:38

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Steve Buscemi's character is a complete ass and cheap on top of it. His whole speech is filled with cheap excuses about why he doesn't tip, and several people at the table tell him so including the old man who pays for the entire bill and makes him tip. And, by the way, "Take me in the back and suck my ****" is a valid point for giving a tip?

scorpioCH

25 May 2008 22:45

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Minimum wage is fine for people to live on? What friggin' state do you live in? I make a minimum wage of $8.00 an hour in California and my paychecks aren't much of anything after the government gets done with them. And I'm starting to wonder if you know anything about what your talking about. A statement like "tips in the waiting profession are by no means a necessity, but an added bonus" is utterly laughable. That's why people wait tables- it's not for your paycheck, it's for the tips. NEVER in my 15 years in the restaurant industry have I EVER heard a server make a statement remotely like that. And why, at this late point in the debate, are you finaling saying that you are in this profession? And how could you not expect a tip if you provided a table with great service? You don't seem to have your feet planted firmly on the earth because, if you serve, you should know exactly what I'm talking about as far as this debate goes. And I wonder how many tables it would take in a row, not tipping you, before you would start to mind. Wake up Jakers and stop making excuses for cheap people, apparently including yourself.

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Employers who don't pay enough are the problem. Charge $11.50 instead of expecting people to leave a tip on a $10 bill, if that's what you're expecting to get.

Unwritten prices are dishonesty and no different than how airlines are behaving today with undeclared "fees" paid at airports. It's gouging, pure and simple.

25 May 2008 10:06

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Most employers could care less if their servers get tipped or not...all they want is the money for their food. Most employers prohibit adding a gratuity to a check...it's up to the customer to tip or not.

scorpioCH

26 May 2008 06:48

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