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People That Try And Use Scientific Findings To Disprove God Make A Basic Error In That They Assume God Would Not Have Set Up The System That Was 'Discovered'.
It's funny to hear people that try and explain away the existence of God by saying that 'science has explained or proven how this or that works. As if God would just make something happen 'mystically'. The idea that God might have set up that 'system' does not seem to occur to them.
 Bugman  02 Aug 2009 23:52
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Scientific findings may disprove certain aspects of different religions, but it does not and ultimately can not logically disprove the existence of God. Religion and God are separate entities, although they are sometimes foolishly linked.
 
 verum  03 Aug 2009 02:17
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 verum why u such noob!!!!
by  poopy
 03 Aug 2009 16:16
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I hear all this nonsense. God this! God that! As if we are all God's friend! We are God's enemies. We are military defects. We are recruited by Satan. That is the true world we live. We cannot bear to accept it. The world is ugly, and we strive to see the Beauty in the ugly.

God doesn't matter to our lives. We want him to though.
 
 respire  03 Aug 2009 01:44
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 Whatever did happen to that bad guy?
by  gottfried
 03 Aug 2009 01:47
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Religion and Science are at their most basic different methods of answering different questions. Science is nothing more and nothing less than a methodology for analyzing and attempting to understand the natural world. Religion is an attempt to understand the supernatural. They by definition are separate.
Now to a certain extent religion strays into areas where it attempts to use the supernatural to explain the natural world and this is where religion becomes mythology. This won’t make me popular but a literal approach to Genesis, for example, is mythology. But for the most part the ‘battle’ between religion and science is a created issue used as a political control device by secular leaders disguised as religious leaders. They foster the impression that we scientists are intent on destroying man’s connection to god. The truth is that, by a huge majority, scientists like most people in the world are probably religious. Living in the Midwest U.S. Of A and being a scientist I know a lot of scientists personally and they are mostly Christian. And for the most part they have no problem reconciling their scientific approach to most things with a belief in god.
 
 finsch  03 Aug 2009 01:25
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 Again, I'm really not talking about the scientists here. I'm talking about the people who feel that because something can be proved scientifically, it therefore disproves that God could have done it.
by  Bugman
 03 Aug 2009 01:28
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Well, overall, religion is irrelevant to science no matter how you slice the cake. Attempting to prove or disprove anything concerning a god using science is out of the question.
 
 Hizashi  03 Aug 2009 01:19
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 Fair enough and I agree. That was not really the point of the debate though.

Answer this please- You recently stated that ' God knows better than to mess with me.' What would you do if he did?
by  Bugman
 03 Aug 2009 01:23
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This I can agree with. Frankly there's no reason evolution or plate tectonics or anything else couldn't have been created by God. But just the same as science doesn't disprove God it's also true the Bible doesn't disprove science.
 
 Grenache  03 Aug 2009 00:04
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 but dont you agree that those who strongly belive in god are always attacking science.
by  fougeray
 03 Aug 2009 00:09
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I could claim the opposite and say that people who claim god does exist make a basic error in assuming god made up the system being discovered.

The debate will end when either real scientific proof of god is show OR the universe is explained completely scientifically.
 
 Jeronimo  08 Aug 2009 13:53
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In typical religious ignorance and dishonesty, Buttplugman gets it wrong again, pretending that the scientific side has to prove anything or has tried. The godbots are the ones making the claim, so the burden of proof lies with the liars...I mean, the religious.

Buttplugman is the one who has the burden of proof, and he could easily meet it if he tried. If he really believed what the buybull says is possible, then he would kill himself and come back to life.

It he can't do it, then "god" does not exist.

If he won't do it, then he knows that "god" doesn't exist but is too afraid to back up his claim with proof.
 
 K9  03 Aug 2009 18:35
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 If there is no proof to validate the existence of a God then it is irrefutable that science can't prove that god does not exist. In most cases, you can't prove that something doesn't exist, you just might notice the immense lack of proof to determine that it does exist..
by  verum
 03 Aug 2009 18:41
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I toyed with that. It's basically believing in a God that would pull the wool over your eyes anyway. A liar and a cheat. Divine qualities indeed.
 
 2free  03 Aug 2009 01:29
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 Reword. I'm having trouble understanding your point.

Maybe read the 'comments' in the section right below your posting.
by  Bugman
 03 Aug 2009 01:40
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Well if you belive in god no one can argue with that can they if there is a god then i guess he is a bit tricky ... But hey Bugman scientists dont try to disprove god they try to understand what they find ...
 
 fougeray  03 Aug 2009 00:02
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 I was not talking about the scientists really. I was talking about those people that assume that because something can be explained scientifically, it must thefore deny that God created it. I guess they assume that if God would have created something, it's system of occurence would have to my 'mystical'.
by  Bugman
 03 Aug 2009 00:08
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