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Most "modern Art" Isn't Art At All.
Art should convey feelings, tell a story, or show beauty. But art that strikes at tradition ("Elephant dung Mary" and "Jar of urine Jesus" etc.) just because it is tradition isn't art. A political statement, yes, but not art. A monkey throwing paint at a canvas is also not art. If it is, give me a monkey, some fiber, and a canvas, and I'll have some art for you in a minute.
 Denmon2413  28 Jul 2008 16:02
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At modern art museums, a piece of wood with a nail in it would be considered art. As long as the "artist" who made it has a crappy story about how it represents the parts in life that are sad
 
 dontkillme  30 Jul 2008 00:51
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Art is all different things to all different tastes.
I can't see why art shouldn't carry a narrative, if that is what the artist wants to portray.
Those artists who display a dustbin full of rubbish do just that. I would rather see something more enduring that a crumpled up tabloid.
 
 keepmindok  29 Jul 2008 08:32
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SOME modern art has little redeeming quality. Artists still have a right to make it but you also have your right to speak out against it.

I do agree that elephant dung, boogers, urine, etc. Makes awful art. Did you hear about an artist in Latin America who chained a stray dog in a studio display and let it starve to death to make a statement. That's awful art, and actually criminal. You can probably find that story with a quick net search.
 
 Grenache  29 Jul 2008 04:45
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Yes.

Fecal matter and urine in a jar and pictures of Deity it is just blasphemous cr@p.
That is not Art: It is profane in the derrogative sense of that word.
That, is spiritual abuse, not Art.
 
 Scorpion  28 Jul 2008 22:52
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 But it is spiritual abuse down to an art form lol
by  Damian
 28 Jul 2008 22:56
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Most modern art is absolute rubbish. The classical art forms died out in the 20th century and now we are left sifting through the rubble, watching fantasists and mountebanks proclaiming themselves artists. I suppose it represents the ultimate fulfilment of the "artist as a rebel who shocks his contemporaries" cliche. Eventually, it would culminate in just total clowns who would do nothing but set out to shock their contemporaries.

Of course, few people voice this opinion for the same reason that no one told the emperor he had no clothes : They are afraid of being thought foolish or uncultured. There was an interesting experiment once where a musician who was sceptical of modernism composed a piece that was full of just random rubbish, incoherent, inharmonious little notes and phrases. He then had it performed and read the reviews that appeared in the quality press. They were respectful, treating it as a piece of serious art.
 
 Hidell  28 Jul 2008 18:43
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I agree. Art is imaginative skill as applied to the natural world or pure imagination. A bottle of urine depicting Jesus is just taking the p** out of p-ure own imagination. As for Mary and the dung, some modern artists will be telling their captive pigeon brain audiences next that some days you have to accept that you are the statue.
 
 joe9  28 Jul 2008 16:28
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Art should be art. Political / religious statements shouldn't hide behind art.

And as far as the monkey... Wait a minute. The fiber is kicking in. Where's the canvas?
 
 Denmon2413  28 Jul 2008 16:05
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Who are any of us to say what art is or isn't?
That would seem to be the opposite of creativity, at the very least.
 
 grokit  22 Aug 2008 20:44
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To define art is impossible. It is akin to putting wind in a box. As soon as you say "art is X" it becomes Y.
 
 eelmonkey  07 Aug 2008 08:32
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Art is more then paintings its music, photographs, cartoons(comics). Even videos is art and one art cane fit another. Music videos, they are the modern art the reflects feelings. Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeucQl0U_sw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmFi2snLr7o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geqQzWG3m2o
 
 oliefan37  06 Aug 2008 03:47
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What is art?

There is a whole area of philosophy devoted to this question so I would love it if you could let me know what the answer is, Denmon2413...
 
 sceptic101  05 Aug 2008 13:33
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So I guess we need to define art?

Is it something which conveys an emotion or message outside of it's literal existence?

Which means most modern art is still art; but not necessarily good as its 'message' is weak and lost on most people.
 
 minchyp  30 Jul 2008 17:27
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Art is subjective. I could say that Picasso isn't art, but that doesn't make it so.
 
 sander  28 Jul 2008 18:34
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 Presenting nature as a cubic pattern is subjective?
by  joe9
 28 Jul 2008 19:13
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Ugh...You're very wrong.

You don't obviously know what art is.
Modern is an amazing type of art. Go to art school and you will regret saying this.
 
 hb_26  28 Jul 2008 16:16
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