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I see your general point Hidell and I do agree that "There's too much praise, even worship, of
people in uniform these days." I guess I would rather praise the individual that went through 10
years of strenuous higher education rather than the individual that signed a piece of paper at the
age of 18. I would have rather joined the military than continued with my education, but I was
fortunate enough to (barely) afford further education. I felt that I would better be able to serve
the country as a whole by going to school. We must all do our part to make our country great. Why
are those in the military given so much credit? Why aren't we stopping bank managers and thanking
them for their service to our country?
"Anyone can die, but few will ever be able to understand rocket science." |
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Eh...i agree.......who wants to die.....not...ME......and plus the military gets so much...bs...they
don't do what they said they are going to do....eh....sounds pretty lame to me... |
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I wont say stupid but i will say a bit useless some of the time. During a time of peace basically
were paying people to work out and exercise and drill while giving them free housing, food, and
other things. This is not always true as some live with families but still go to "training" every
few months. They try to make these people useful by sending them to put out fires and such and I'm
fine with that but until that guy risks his life and is at constant risk of his life hes just
another man doing his job and deserves what everybody else gets and no more |
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Some of the hateful responses opposite are indicative of the sense of entitlement that most of the
zombies in uniform now have. They see themselves as superior to other citizens. Because they have
gone to some third-world country and murdered defenceless brown people at the behest of some evil
politicians, they feel themselves entitled : Entitled to free education, free medical care, free
child care, free travel, free prostitutes.
The rest of us have to bow down and worship the roid head in uniform. This is proto-fascism. When
the goons and zombies are exalted as heroes, and held up as moral examples for the admiration of
all, you have a culture and civilisation slipping down into the abyss. This is what happened in
Germany between the world wars when the WW1 soldiers were exalted as heroes.
I've got nothing against people in the military. No doubt some of them are pleasant, decent people,
probably more nuanced in their views of the world than some of the unscrupulous politicians on whose
orders they murder people. But the fact is that most of them are of sub-normal intelligence. They
joined the military because employment opportunities which required intelligence were not available
to them. In other words, they join for simple economic reasons, not because they feel some burning
desire to serve their country or perform heroic deeds. In any case, how heroic is it to drive round
murdering brown people who can't fight back? It's not a real war. A real war is when the enemy can
fight back.
It's true that some niche occupations in the military require intelligence and training. These are
the exception, though. The basic grunt job of driving round in a jeep and shooting brown people who
look at you the wrong way, or standing at a checkpoint and shooting the brown people who drive up
too fast, does not require intelligence. In fact, for that job, intelligence in the recruits is
regarded as a bad thing, because it means that the person possessing it is more likely to question
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Yes, generally this is true. Being a soldier is a job like any other, and they get paid to do that
job. I don't see any particular reason why they should get special treatment over anyone else who is
in gainful employment. They certainly don't volunteer to risk their lives for their county, they
expect to get a big fat wage for doing it. If anyone is stupid enough not to realise that joining
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Is there any need for an intellectual military? |
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I could never be grateful enough to the people who loved Britain to the extent that they would
sacrifice their lives so that we could preserve our beloved values of freedom and equality.
It's true that not all wars are just wars but your blanket statement degrades all those men who
fought for democracy against fascism in 1945. |
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Omg how stupid is it to defend your country |
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Yes how stupid is it to defend your right and protect
your country
when your country needs you
if all the stupid folks that gave there lives to defend us said no we would all be talking German
the real stupid folks are the chickens that wont stand up and give all unless its with there mouths. |
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People who think they could call the shots in their life without other people protecting their
rights are twice as stupid as most stupid people who join the military.
The stupidest thing about joining the military is having to defend the twice as stupid. |
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Some Guys and Gals who come from disadvantage backgrounds see the military as an option.
Many would struggle to stay off the dole.
I think it is wrong to label them stupid. The military is a great opportunity to do something useful
with there lives.
There are a few who let the side down with booze. Or some other abuse such as the embarrassing
conduct of both American and British troops in Iraq.
For the most part it is honorable employment they are rightly proud to be a part of.
Remember, When the chips are down we will all be cheering them on. |
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Do not use service men and women as your scapegoat for your disgust or disagreement with your
government. Besides, many of those "stupid" and "sociopathic" men and women feel the same way you
do about the current situation, i.e. The "war" on terrorism.
Don't be so quick to judge. Many of these men and women are going to need help getting on their
feet after coming back from such conflicts. Why would you deny them that right? I have witnessed
first hand the strain this has put on them and their families. |
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What the hell is this about? Your saying people who put their lives on the line are stupid? That's
like looking at a firefrighter after he pulled you from you burning house and calling him stupid
because he saved you. They should get special privileges, I don't see you out there in Iraq. I
don't see you doing anything for our country. I mean, neither am I but, I'm not trashing people who
do, am I? |
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No, they are not stupid except for the marine who threw the puppy off the cliff, but that's a
different story. I want to be a soldier and you should check out everything including the pay
before you criticize the best job in the world. |
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Although they CAN be stupid it's not true most are.
It's neither "necessary" nor "sufficient" to be stupid in order to get into the military. People
join for a long list of reasons among which are a lack of other economic options, a desire for the
schooling assistance, and even blind patriotism.
Now if I joined the army I'd say I was stupid... Because I have other options.
And frankly although we think of common foot soldiers being basic grunts the truth is there is
substantial complexity to doing their jobs. And climbing up the ladder to pilots, commanders,
artillery you end up with quite highly skilled and intelligent people. |
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Choice of occupation (military is an occupation) does not prejudge one of low-intellectual
capacity.
Stupid is how stupid does, said Forrest Gump in the Tom Hanks movie...........;-)
There is none so moronic as someone who pre-judges anything they do not understand nor have previous
knowledge of or about or concerning.
My late Father was in the army.....WW2.:-(
Don't talk trash about the men in uniform or I will kick your @ss.:-(
My Father was the best man, bravest most courageous REAL MAN I ever knew! And he was an ordained
minister of the Gospel, a pastor and a preacher, and a Gentleman. Always.
Which if I could find a man as good as my Father? I would drag him off to the Justice and marry his
little @ss in a heartbeat, SO THERE!!!
Do not run down military and uniformed men.
Intelligence-wise? My Father as the class Valedictorian of his high school.....and that was back in
the days where you could not graduate until you had memorized the Constitution and Bill of Rights,
and speak and read LATIN.
He was a Mathematics Major, he did not have dyslexia.
And at his funeral in 1997, he was given a full-military burial ceremony: Folded flag, gun-salute,
and the young military man in Army-Dress-Blues, handed my mother the American Flag, by my Father's
grave.
God Bless his memory. May I live up to my full potential as his replacement on this earth: I am, my
Father's daughter.
And never, ever forget it. |
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There are stupid people everywhere, but I think the military is the wrong place to look for them.
Most people who join the army are not stupid, but are looking for a paying job to support their
families, a place to find adventure, or maybe just want to defend their country. Sure, today's wars
are not worth fighting in, but sometimes families raise their children to think that they are. So it
usually isn't the child's fault if he thinks that he should fight in a war. I think making a blanket
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