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When I was in high school there was a fight between a black belt and a street tough. The black belt
won, but it took almost five minutes, and the street guy nearly had him a couple of times. In the
end we all pretty much agreed that it wasn't so much the karate that won it, as the shape he was in
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It's true, while the martial art guy is making his bows and ceremonial groaning and what not the
street guy would tear the martial arts guys face off |
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A street fighter has more toughness so he can take more punches and be more efficient in blood
fight. |
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I agree. There are some people who really can do that stuff, but mostly its just people chopping the
air and making funny sounds. |
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Most of martial arts is spent on the defensive side of the fight, while any gangster will just punch
him. This is a no-brainer. |
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Yes, the Eastern martial arts are essentially forms of ballet-dancing, more like synchronized
swimming or gymnastics than genuine combat disciplines. For example, the high kicks used I don't
believe are effective combat moves. They may look sensational in Hollywood movies. In reality,
however, your opponent could grab your leg fairly easily and use it to unbalance you or hold you in
a vulnerable position. It is also almost impossible to deliver a forceful blow with the feet in any
move that wouldn't leave you massively vulnerable if it failed to connect.
I think Bruce Lee, towards the end of his life, realized how absurd most of the traditional martial
arts were, with moves and practices that were in there for decorative flourish rather than combat
effectiveness. In developing his own martial art, he tried to find a way around this.
There are probably other martial arts which are more down-to-earth and therefore useful. The Israeli
combat technique Krav Maga, for example, might be one of these, and perhaps the Filipino martial art
(whose name I forget, but Jason Bourne uses it in the Bourne films) which sanctions using improvised
weapons such as pens and rolled-up magazines. |
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To be a black belt only takes a couple of years, and really isn't a show of being a great fighter,
it really only means you performed a certain number of forms adequately. So you can be a black belt
and not a competent fighter, so you are right, a street fighter (may or)could really kick his butt
Mike Tyson was a perfect example, he was a street fighter from harlem, to world champion. |
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They are called 'arts' for a reason, most over hyping comes from Anime where the fighter can launch
over 9000 punches in a few seconds and then fly in the air to perform some kind of attack using the
elements or inner energy like Ki.
Street fighters are commonly portrayed as the 'Bad guys', act clumsy, move predictably and
ultimately get beaten every single time.
I wouldn't say it's a joke though, if they don't provide good fighting techniques, they provide good
advice on how to stay in shape and keep a steady mind. I agree with the second part of your
statement. |
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Being trained in martial arts would help you control the adrenalin, but in a rule-free street fight
I've read they could utilise less than 15% of their moves. |
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Those who are grandmasters in the arts have incredible skill; there discipline could blow the
irrational aggression of a thug out of the water. |
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A martial artist would have better reaction time. He'll also be more likely to survive because if
e's losing, he could run away faster than a bulky so called "street fighter". |
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You pit a man of equal weight
and equal fighting experience
and height
to a man who has trained technique
i think i know who would win
the fact many black belts could get beaten up is because they aren't real fighters, don't know how
to take a punch or a kick properly |
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No, and unless you are referring to official police, I think it's a shame that people from your (my)
country even uses the term "street-fighter". |
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I KNOW TAEKWONDO AND IT IS NOT USELESS!!!!!! Why would anyone say that in the first place? You
obviously don't know what you're talking about. Martial arts are about concentration and
discipline. There is no WAY a streetfighter would have a chance. |
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Martial arts have been practiced for hundreds of years. They have had the time to perfect their art.
Street fighting is the one that is overhyped in games like Grand Theft Auto. Karate would win hands
down. |
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Martial Arts is about defence and not picking fights with people. What you see in movies and video's
is glorified Jackie Chan Karate. Martial Arts is about reacting to what happens to you. |
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I studied Tae Kwon Do for several years and I can tell you martial arts are quite dangerous. I can't
remember most of the stuff I learned (it's been years), but I do remember it was all quite
dangerous. |
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Being a black belt, I find that I have to defend the martial arts. Yes, if someone used the exact
movements and techniques taught, they would get slaughtered, because they are intended to be used
with some initiative too. The art I am proficient in was taught to Korean soldiers to improve
reaction time and give them a chance in unarmed combat, so it can't have been entirely useless
Martial arts isn't about dancing around Jackie Chan stylee, they are about fighting education as
well. They teach you where to hit and how to achieve maximum effect. That coupled with some common
sense and you're laughing. Someone hits you in the stomach. BAM. You're winded and in pain. They're
mocking you. THWACK. You're crushing their trachea with one hand or you've broken their breast bone
so they can't breate. Street fighters are used to prolonged, messy fights. Martial artists possess
the skill and the fitness to end that fight with one or two strikes.
I certainly know I can handle myself and have done on several occasions. Mind you, they don't make
you invincible. Even black belts are vulnerable to a lynch mob and a lead pipe. We're just better
prepared for the eventuality. |
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Karate owns, you can kill people with your bare hands with a single hit if you learn how, without
too much effort |
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Obviously you watch a lot of bad martial arts movies/whatever on TV.
Martial arts like karate is not about beating somebody up like a streefighter.
It's about discipline and self defence.
Streetfighting is like a game.
Punch wherever you can and as hard as you can. By just using one horizontal hand movement on the
throat, you can kill a person.
I know that one of my friends is black belt in karate who finally got a man in jail. He was done for
raping 24 woman before and she defended herself. That's what you do to handle 'dangerous situations'
in the world. |
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