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Moral Integrity Is More Important Than Religion.
Would you rather have a friend or workmate or spouse that had the same religious beliefs or lack of beliefs as you but lacked integrity, or would you rather be with someone that felt very different than you about religious questions but who you could trust.
 finsch  18 Jun 2008 21:13
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In terms of how the statement was posted, I would take someone I could trust with a different religious background rather than someone I couldn't trust who had the same religious background. Are you kidding me? Trust is above everything. If I can't trust you, I don't care if your beliefs are the exact same as mine.
 
 Damien  16 Sep 2008 19:50
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 Damien you seam to struggle with this why have you posted on this side?
by  keepmindok
 16 Sep 2008 20:24
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Oooooh. Good one.

Wow. I am actually going to have to think about this one.
Excellent debate topic.
Well put across also.

Ok.................

To actually address your comment:

Yes.
I would have to go with door A: Integrity over religion.
In a spouse.
Not in my way of life or beliefs or ideals as such.

But in a mate?

Yes. Moral integrity is more important than religion.
I have divorced 4 husbands who were professing Christians because of sexual lack of integrity/and/or abuse.

So, yes. I would prefer a Moral Atheist over a Straying Christian.
 
 Scorpion  26 Jul 2008 20:01
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Morality is a personal conviction where religion is a doctrine.
 
 moreno  19 Jun 2008 15:29
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Of course. It's a pity that many religions are stained by a lack of morality though.
 
 Snipex  18 Jun 2008 23:31
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Good subject, I like this nipper, he is very sharp.

The two subjects are not related. People with integrity can be religious or they may not. Those without, the same. People's moral outlook and integrity will bring and keep them together far more than religious beliefs.
 
 StBalders  18 Jun 2008 21:55
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I have little difficulty accepting different views on religion. Just within my own family I went to protestant church, synagogue, and was baptized in the Catholic Church (as well as educated by the Jesuits). Plus half the Jews and Catholics I’m related to are somewhere between Atheist and Agnostic. So while debate at the dinner table can get pretty lively I know I can count on all of my family to show strong moral fiber and unswerving integrity and that’s all that matters to me.
 
 finsch  18 Jun 2008 21:23
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 Wow, quite a group. I've got an orthodox wing to my family but my immediate family is liberal/atheist.
by  Quincel
 18 Jun 2008 21:29
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If a rapist commits a rape he does not do so because of his religious convictions on the contrary a person who has the proper faith would not even contemplate such action. So integrity is as important as religion and religion oozes integrity
 
 bountyhunt  18 Jun 2008 21:21
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 You can be religious and commit rape but if you have moral integrity you will not.
by  finsch
 18 Jun 2008 21:24
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I agree, though it should be noted that moral integrity and religious belief are by no means mutually exclusive. One of the most moral people I know is a devout member of the pentecostal church, a fairly serious (I wouldn't say extreme) sect of the church. Creationism etc are their beliefs.
 
 Quincel  18 Jun 2008 21:17
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 I by no means meant to imply that they were mutually exclusive, just that they weren’t necessarily mutually inclusive.
by  finsch
 18 Jun 2008 21:26
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No, but I can see where you are coming from.

If you were to discus this in more depth finsch. Ie: You are saying that religion has differing degrees of trust or integrity, and that is ambiguous.

Saying you are religious doesn't make you religious.
 
 keepmindok  16 Sep 2008 20:21
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