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When In A Relationship, Lusting Over Explicit Female Pictures Is The Equivalent Of Cheating
If there is a disctincton to be made, please elighten me.
 Juggernaut  12 Jun 2009 15:29
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To "lust" is to have a strong physical desire to have sex with somebody, usually without associated feelings of love or affection. Furthermore, the act of lusting is a directed focus of energy. While one cannot reasonably have sex with pictures, it should be obvious that the objects here are the women in the pictures. That being said, the intended point is that wanting to have sex with women, outside the relationship, as represented by the women in the pictures, constitutes the equivalent of cheating. While I don't claim to have carte blanche on everything sex-related, I have yet to hear a person express the desire to have sex with another's specific body part, exclusively. So then, a question to address is whether or not it is ok to want to have sex with other women, wherein the only thing preventing it from happening is, perhaps, access, proximity, mutual consent, etc.?
 
 Juggernaut  18 Jun 2009 14:06
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 I think there is a difference between wanting to do something and actually acting on it. If a person in a relationship sees someone attractive walking down the street, they might feel a physical attraction to them, but the respect, love and level of intimacy they have with their partner is usually enough to prevent them from acting on that attraction. We can't always help every thought that goes through our minds, but we can control our actions.
by  my2cents2u
 18 Jun 2009 14:24
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Maybe he is not lusting for the pictures. But the women themselves? In which he hopes to get to those women that exist in the pictures. This lust is his thirst that must be quenched by these women, and he has no thirst or regard for his own wife.
 
 gottfried  15 Jun 2009 16:11
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 Gottfried,

I understand this point of view, where the porn comes before the significant other. In my view, I still wouldn't see this as cheating, but more so an issue that needs to be resolved in therapy.
by  Damien
 15 Jun 2009 17:07
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Anything that distracts you from your partner is cheating. Whether it's chatting someone up at work, online, or simply drooling over pics of someone else.
 
 webman1200  12 Jun 2009 20:51
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If the guy is on his computer for hours looking at pornography compared to glancing at a suggestive billboard advertisement, then I say yes, he is cheating. He is thinking of another woman and wants to be with her, even though it's just a fantasy. Maybe I'm wrong, but from a female's point of view, it's a big no-no. However, it does go both ways.
 
 bookworm3  12 Jun 2009 19:26
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Better pictures than the real girl.
 
 Cemetary  04 Dec 2009 18:20
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Both my wife & i enjoy porn she likes to look at other mens bodies that are almost as gorgeous as mine. We have even made our own porn of just the two of us for our own private viewing .
 
 fougeray  01 Aug 2009 13:21
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 Good for you. Sounds like you have a fun relationship with your wife.
by  proudmom93
 01 Aug 2009 13:37
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If my ex only "cheated" by looking at pictures then I probably would still be married.
 
 proudmom93  01 Aug 2009 12:59
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 In fact the act of looking at explicit pictures, maybe even the act of relieving themselves, may serve as an outlet that stops them from really going all the way with cheating. Not every couple could live with that scenario, but then again if you have kids with the guy and want to stay together then looking the other way about a discreet porn habit may be a small price to pay.
by  Grenache
 01 Aug 2009 13:09
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All human beings look at anything that is attractive to them. That would include a man or woman looking at explicit pictures if or when they are available. Women are less visually stimulated, which I guess is why the debate targets men, but women look too. A woman might not look at the same type of pictures, but we all look. I do have a friend who uses religion to back up her very jealous issues about her husband looking at even a fully clothed woman if she thinks that woman is attractive. She says that it is lust and uses the Bible to back her arguments. If a man or woman is consistantly viewing pornographic material and isn't paying attention to their partner, there is probably a problem in the relationship, but I don't think that looking is the same as cheating. No one brings home a STD from looking at explicit content. That said, unless one is blind or dead, they are going to look and making a big deal out of it only makes the person doing the complaining look insecure and petty. Unless it is getting in the way of a normal and healthy sex life between partners, there is no problem with looking. Also, looking is not equal to lusting after someone else. To look at someone who is beautiful does not mean that the person looking wishes to physically be with someone who looks like the image in the picture/video. I think that is where the confusion seems to come in. If someone is looking at someone and wanting to leave their marriage for the person they are looking at, that is an issue. To simply look and even to be turned on is not lust. It is a natural physical response.

I think that, if one is in a relationship and this is something that they allow to become an issue, it is more their problem than a problem with the viewer. As others have stated, there are limits and there are also some couples who define cheating within their own individual relationship. In that case, whatever the couple has decided constitutes cheating is valid in their relationship.
 
 my2cents2u  15 Jun 2009 15:52
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 As pleasure is not happiness...
Sexual tastes are not beauty.

pleasure can bring a euphoric state dubbed happiness.
And sexual tastes are to the perceiver a beautiful thing.

I think beauty is objective. I think its everywhere. But that's a different debate.
by  gottfried
 16 Jun 2009 02:29
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My answer is sort of like an echo to what finsch said, but there is a huge difference between porn being your secondary or your primary "release." When my fiance isn't in the mood or if she's out of town, I'll look at porn, but only because it is a secondary option to my fiance. If I actively sought out porn before I sought out my fiance, then I'd probably have some issues.

That and I see nothing wrong with spicing things up a bit. I've learned a great amount of techniques from porn that my fiance has been thankful for in the bedroom. I'm sure that's more information that anyone would like to know, but it is the truth. I think a boring sex life is one of the main killers of a relationship for young and active couples.
 
 Damien  15 Jun 2009 15:07
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First off it is a mistake to characterize anything like this a strictly a male issue. What constitutes cheating should be personally defined between the principles in a relationship. My belief is that it does not constitute cheating and in fact can be a useful tool in reducing urges to stray. Most therapists agree that a healthy fantasy life can be contributory to a satisfying sex life with your partner.

That being said it is a different matter if one partner would rather peruse porn than engage in sexual activity with their partner. I’m not sure it constitutes cheating but it certainly constitutes a serious problem.

Just curious, is there a difference to you between using porn and your own imagination?
 
 finsch  14 Jun 2009 21:18
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I'd have to say that the equality of looking at photos and cheating with another individual varies as much as a Porsche and a ford. I just think it's bad, not necessarily a cheat. :)
 
 n-stein8_  14 Jun 2009 19:32
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My belief on the matter is, that looking is okay but when you cross the invisible line and touch is when it becomes cheating (well apart from if it includes a web cam but we won't go intot that). Cheating is a physical action and therefore simply looking doesn't full into that category.
And as Grenache said couples do use images at times to enhance their sex life.
 
 kddan  14 Jun 2009 17:35
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Its not. They are only looking. They are not phyically going out and doing things with other people.
 
 kitten  13 Jun 2009 17:08
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My theory is, They can look but they can't touch. And woman are just as bad as men when it comes to this stuff. (not saying all the time)
 
 jhs_debate  12 Jun 2009 23:36
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You set a standard through which every male in every relationship would be a cheater because they see suggestive photos in everything from mainstream magazines to billboards to TV and movies. Do you want a Taliban-style existance where ancient nude statues are hidden or demolished and women wear burkas head to toe?

Furthermore there are couples who look at sexy pictures together as mutual marital aids.

And frankly women do look at men too.
 
 Grenache  12 Jun 2009 16:36
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 Let's keep it real. There is a difference between sitting in front of a computer or TV drooling over images of digital women, while handling one's "business" and casually seeing suggestive photos and imagery while in the presence of family, friends or co-workers. The only burka I want to see on a woman is one that is sheer and sexy. I can do without the old nude statues of usually under-proportioned folks though. Further, some couples cheat under mutual consent. Not my thing. But, also, not my business.
by  Juggernaut
 12 Jun 2009 17:40
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