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Lusting & Flirting Is Also Cheating.
A lot of people say they have never cheated but lets find out where the cheating line is drawn. The only way to accurately say you have never cheated is if you have never; done the following whith another person while in a relationship. 1. Sexual Imaginations. 2. Lusting. 3. Flirting 4. Pornography 5.Kissing Hand or cheek 6 Touching 8.oral Sx
 Calvin  17 Aug 2008 02:13
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Yes i agree. I wouldn't like the thought of my boyfriend flirting with another girl when he's out drinking! I'm sure he wouldn't like it the other way round either.
 
 Rosie  26 Oct 2008 09:44
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Yes, because thoughts count. Why would anyone flirt with a stranger? How stupid.
 
 Stranger  08 Oct 2008 16:33
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Imagination Has to and Must be included. It is 80% of what sex is all about it stimulates the mind. If they are not thinking about their sex partner then they have just cheated their sex partner out of a place in their memory banks that should be reserved for that special moments.
 
 Calvin  17 Aug 2008 18:52
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 I so totally agree with you on this one, Calvin, that it isn't even funny.
by  Scorpion
 18 Aug 2008 20:56
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You have a point there.

If we are holding Christ's biblical standards up here for a comparison.

Where it goes to even the thoughts and intents of the heart.

But for all others?

No. The line would be touching someone else's body.
Oral Sex & Intercourse.

In my own opinion though? Flirting is not cheating.
But porn is.
And imaginations with others? Very undermining to a committed relationship. It adulterates what is private and special between just two people. Imaginations seems worst of all to me, for that very reason. It is giving yourself in the deepest way to that someone other, than whom you're with.
 
 Scorpion  17 Aug 2008 02:41
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 Fair points, although I'd claim if imagination is cheating then every living woman cheats as well as every living man. I know many think men are the dogs but women read lot's of books and magazines with sexual fancy and cheer for sports stars and other celebrities because they're cute. So if imagination is cheating you've defined the whole world as cheating. Men think of sex every 15 seconds or so, well women might not be as often but even if it takes 100 times more seconds for them to think about it - they still do.
by  Grenache
 17 Aug 2008 02:50
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Everyone in a relationship, man or woman will lust and maybe flirt with others from time to time. But its not cheating, if these feelings became physical or were acted then it would become cheating.
 
 kddan  23 Aug 2008 22:09
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Not the best with numbers are we?
1.Sexual Imaginations- no every man has the right to his mind not really honest but not cheating.
2. Lusting-same as one
3. Flirting- if just for fun and your partner knows that then no. If for other "reasons" and your partner doesn't know then yes.
4. Yes as you are viewing other woman just to get your sexual high and usually behind the womans back.
5.Kissing Hand or cheek- out of politeness, hand obviously, then no or if its a old friend and your wife knows this old friend to and understands your reasons then no. If your walking down the street and you see some random hot girl and you grab her hand and kiss it then yes.
6.touching- i think this matters more on what you mean by touching.
7. ABSOLUTELY NOT COMPELETLY IDIOTIC or wait there is no 7
8. DuH?
 
 Smito  17 Aug 2008 04:42
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 I'm not a mathematician I'm a philosopher. If you really think about it. Who says there has to be a 7.
by  Calvin
 17 Aug 2008 05:48
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It all depends on your definition, and I thought that the most widely used one was, like Grenache said, only the last two.
 
 sander  17 Aug 2008 04:41
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I'd say only the last two are solidly cheating -- touching (I'm assuming sexually), and oral sex. Those are both direct physical contact with genitalia. And flirting is a gray area I'll discuss below.

Imagination can never be cheating, no contact happens and imagination is necessary for human mental health. Just watching a mainstream movie may trigger imagination of a sexual nature, even involuntarily, and watching that movie is not cheating.

Lusting is the same reasoning as imagination.

Flirting is not cheating if it's simple superficial friendly interaction. Telling them they have a nice smile isn't cheating. But talking vividly about their sexy parts, cat calling, and openly discussing how to get private time together is all cheating.

Pornography is not cheating for the same reasoning as imagination.

Kissing the hand or cheek is social politeness (unless it wasn't welcome, in which case it's sexual harrassment). Generally it's not cheating.

This was fun, good posted topic.

I'm sure not everyone will agree with me. That's fine. What really matters is that you and the person you're involved with have a mutually agreed upon parameter for what counts for cheating. If you're with somebody offended by porn then you better not have any if you plan on staying with them. If they're fine with it then fine, but that also means you can't flip out if they're looking at porn too. Fair is fair.

So anyway, I say lusting is imagination and that's not cheating, and flirting usually isn't cheating - unless it's specifically about boobs and sexy parts or inludes planning on how to get away together to take the step beyond flirting.
 
 Grenache  17 Aug 2008 02:26
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 We don't often agree, but I'd say you nailed this!
by  Cons_Lies
 17 Aug 2008 02:55
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