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Lib's Want To Ensure The 'less Fortunate" Have Economic Equality. The Only Method They Have Found Is Seizing Another Man's Earnings To Pay For It To Happen.
We constantly hear of the Lib's dream of helping the less fortunate. I really wish I could hear from someone who was actually helped by them? To anything higher than "basic needs" lifestyle.
 Bugman  11 Sep 2008 22:03
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I agree. They should come up with a new method because this one obviously does not work. The truth is...neither party has a workable solution to this problem. In my opinion, the Christian church (myself included) should be doing more to help those in need and keep it out of the hands of the government except in extreme cases. Remember in the book of Acts where it talks about how the church helped the widows and the orphans? We should be doing more of that today.
 
 created  20 Sep 2008 19:46
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 Amen.
by  Bugman
 21 Sep 2008 02:42
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No libs and "political leftists" or wtv the hell you want to call em.. Think it's a good idea to take a person's money and give it to another person because they don't make as much money? That's some bullshit.

Do work son.
 
 rawk  12 Sep 2008 08:56
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Libs....who is more generous with tax dollars than the current administration... There are CEO's walking away from this housing mess with multi millions in there pocket...The welfare bailout will cover their losses... Nothing in our current budget regarding social programs in this country compares to that....
 
 cdee12120  12 Oct 2008 02:33
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After my father died when I was a child we were very very poor. We received food stamps, government cheese and even a little welfare. Now as an adult I have a college education and make a comfortable living. Those pesky Libs’s were also responsible for worker’s rights, suffrage, and ending segregation. And if you’re under the impression that our tax and budget problems stem from social program you haven’t followed you tax dollars very well.
 
 finsch  13 Sep 2008 20:11
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 I appreciate your comments. I am glad you were helped. I did qualify the debate though, I said "higher than'basic needs" lifestyle.

Listen, We all want people to be helped. I myself LOVE to do it. I help on an ongoing, monthly basis. Two people.

The argument is not about not wanting people helped. It's about how to do it. We have spent trillion's on the "war on poverty" and still have poor. The Government can't do it. No government ever has.

With the tax rate I pay, I work about 2 hours out of my day for the government and you probably do somewhere around that also. That is just sick. that's assuming a 28% tax rate.

P.S. We grew up broke also. Not as bad as you had it though.
by  Bugman
 13 Sep 2008 21:19
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When the government taxes the poor to give welfare to the rich, it's "capitalism", and when the government taxes the rich to give welfare to the poor, that's "communism".

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My point was proven yesterday: The Bush Junta has socialized the losses of the banks making taxpayers pay for it.

Buttman whined, The Only Method They Have Found Is Seizing Another Man's Earnings To Pay For It To Happen.

That's exactly what the fascist morons have done, stealing from the working class to bail out the rich.

Retards like buttman are too stupid to grasp that fact.
 
 K9  13 Sep 2008 10:04
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 the dems pushed that through my friend. not just bush.
by  created
 20 Sep 2008 19:29
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Hmmmm this is one of those topics I'm not so sure about.. Where i wish there was a neutral option. I think what they are trying to do, or maybe, what both sides are trying to do, is to create some kind of economic balance to close a growing gap... I think people who uphold this whole 'Liberal vs. Conservative' idea are missing the point.. And that is the problem at hand. They are to busy bashing the other. Unfortunately, to create this balance I think that taking from the 'more fortunate ones' and giving to the 'less fortunate', is a great idea... Think of it this way, if some balance isnt reached... Then you can kiss your government good bye, because after which it will collapse from the inside.
 
 MoonChild  12 Sep 2008 07:45
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 That is an interesting point as that is a line that Lib's often use to try to scare people. The "gap" line. My gosh, they have been saying that for years. Shouldn't it have closed by now?

But stil, my point remains. The only way they have found is to transfer earnings from one to another,
by  Bugman
 12 Sep 2008 10:33
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If you guy's could come with some game and meet "us" head to head, it could be fun. By the way- If it appears all the time, can you sense the sort of resentment building in those of us who are called "mean" just because we want to keep what we have earned? That we are SO tired of being told that we are "greedy". How can someone be greedy if they want to keep what is there to begin with?

Thank you, I feel better now. At least till tomorrow....

DANG! I PUT THIS IN THE WRONG PLACE AGAIN! This is a comment to Bluestater.
 
 Bugman  11 Sep 2008 22:39
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 bluestater is right, you've made your point, just drop it.
by  Quincel
 11 Sep 2008 23:16
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This is such a over-used topic. The only debate you see on this website has something to do with liberals. It's getting really boring.
 
 bluestater  11 Sep 2008 22:18
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 See above please.
by  Bugman
 11 Sep 2008 22:40
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