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Killing People Who Kill People To Show People That Killing Is Wrong, Is Wrong.
A lot of people say that executing murderers to show people killing is wrong, is wrong. What do you think?
 justjay  11 Aug 2008 09:22
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...This supposed to be a tounge twister?
 
 Nicoleness  31 Oct 2008 01:48
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People call it justice, but what they really mean is revenge. Say the murderer is put to death...then what? It doesn't bring back your loved one. It probably won't bring closure to your life and end your suffering. Who are WE to play god by making the decision to take someone's life? Besides that, depending on your beliefs, maybe prison is more of a punishment than death.
"Revenge or vengeance consists primarily of retaliation against a person or group in response to perceived wrongdoing. Although many aspects of revenge resemble or echo the concept of justice, revenge usually has a more injurious than harmonious goal."
 
 veridian65  20 Oct 2008 16:43
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I read an article about two unsavory men who grabbed a twelve year old girl walking down a road... They put her into their truck and took her to a undisclosed area, pored gasoline on a rag stuffed it into her mouth then proceeded to rape and sodomize this little girl and strangle her to death. These two animals left
her little body right there....like trash on the side of the road... No thought on any humanistic level to the severity of what they
both had done...My first reaction kill them ..don't wait for the trial... Just kill them both...Our world is not that simple... Hundreds of thousands of dollars in court costs later they would eventually die...The fact that these two predators were once children who most likely had a terrible childhood themselves.Nobody intervened on their turmoil and sadness then... Now it's too
late... Why spend this much on someone who just isn't worth it.. The hope in changing this process is in the youth...Why not take those thousands or millions in court costs and push prevention... More social workers targeting problematic homes, more resources for families, better opportunity in educating people... These two men never in their lives would have the ability to acquire jobs that would even come close to the debt of their court costs on death row... Let them rot in jail... No privileges..bread and water... Save the money ... Intervene in the hopeful not the hopeless....
 
 cdee12120  10 Oct 2008 21:05
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I completely agree. It makes no sense to punish someone who has killed by sending them on death row to deter other people from killing. That therefore makes you as bad the killer. Lifetime jail sentences yes, but not killing them.
 
 Tromanator  05 Sep 2008 13:54
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It is wrong,

Its being a hypocrite.
Your saying its wrong to kill,
but you would go and do it?

It doesn't make any sense?

If someone killed your loved one,
Would you want someone like you to go through that?
Would you want to sink as low and kill them back?
Or make them think about what they did for the rest of their life...
 
 Hashley  12 Aug 2008 20:28
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 Ha! Like you would honestly care what the murderer of your mother would ever think about! Again, it's about justice, not about teaching a lesson.
by  Cons_Lies
 13 Aug 2008 00:55
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I believe that man does not have the right to decide when people are to die.
 
 123  12 Aug 2008 07:29
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If it is done to show people its wrong there couldn't be a worse example to set. But if your aim is to scare people into thinking this will happen to you if you do it, then it is effective certainly. (although you wouldn't think it given all the murders committed today)
 
 Stunts  11 Aug 2008 21:52
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First off, no one says that, therefore the whole question is irrelevant. If that were the point of the death penalty, then I agree, it would be wrong. But it's just a strawman.

The real point of the death penalty is to punish those who *MURDER*, which is killing not sanctioned by the law. There's nothing particularly wrong with killing, we do it every day. You can kill in self-defense, you can kill the enemy in a war. You can kill animals for food. There are plenty of perfectly legal, perfectly good reasons to kill and only a fool would claim otherwise.

However, it's when that killing becomes a heinous crime, as defined by our criminal codes, when people commit such terrible and unjustifiable acts that they lose, according to the rules we operate our societies under, the right to breathe the same air as civilized folks, that murderers deserve to be put to death.

So stop beating a strawman and start dealing with reality.
 
 Cephus  11 Aug 2008 19:08
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 stfu
seriously.
if you're going to mock people. don't put your 2 cents in.
people DO say that.
whether you've heard it or not, i don't care.
maybe you don't have enough friends. and i know why.
if you did. maybe you'd have heard that by now.
by  justjay
 15 Aug 2008 03:09
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Human life is sacred (with some necessary presumptions, like that all people are equal). We cannot earn this trait; it is inherent to who we are as humans. Just as we cannot earn the status of being protected by our sanctity, we cannot lose this sanctity of our lives. No matter what we do, our lives are sacred. We are special. We do not deserve life to begin with, but we also do not have the right to determine who deserves life and who doesn't.

Just because someone is a murderer does not make that person any less human. Even the murderer's life is equal to everyone else's. What he has done does not change his status as a human, and therefore it is wrong to kill him. What he has done does, however, limit his status in society. While he has the right to live, he does not have the right to live with and like everybody else - for everybody's protection and as a deterrent from committing further crimes.
 
 theophilus  11 Aug 2008 14:22
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 All people are not equal. They are when they are born but what we do in life sets us apart. Someone who has committed a henious crime has reliquished the right to be treated equally.

"We also do not have the right to determine who deserves life and who doesn't. " Why not, we, as society, determine the rules. Who else can make these decisions?

In a hypothetical situation if you had to save one person and let the other die, would you choose the innocent little girl or a person who has raped and killed innocent little girls? Not a tough decision because they are not equal humans. One has had their chance and blown it. No one should show any care for them whatsoever.
by  Mosschops
 11 Aug 2008 16:30
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I for one and currently the only one agree because it is hypocritical to say that killing is bad to a person who has just killed but put him or her on death trial, sure they killed but why does America always want to be the Hypocrite (or however its spelled). "Killing is Wrong, Lets Not make them learn their lesson the hard way and just take a life, even though we have nothing to gain, were just a hypocrite."(i cant spell this word)
 
 keetonman  11 Aug 2008 12:28
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 "Hypocrite."
by  theophilus
 11 Aug 2008 14:15
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This title made me laugh. Clever wording. Props to you my good man. This is his punishment not a display for everyone else. It's not like their executing people in town square (or are they?).
 
 Specter87  16 Sep 2008 04:06
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No its is right. What is wrong with The Death Penalty is, they get the wrong person, and they so keep getting the wrong person, that justjay, is murder.
 
 keepmindok  05 Sep 2008 13:58
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Killing People Who Kill People To Show People That Killing Is Wrong.
Nothing wrong in that statement
In my view killing a human is the most awful crime which deserves the most horrible punishment.
And if there was any harder punishment than death, then I would be in harmony with it
 
 child  14 Aug 2008 16:53
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If you know you're going to die would you go and kill someone
 
 manu98  12 Aug 2008 09:35
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We kill people who kill people so they don't kill people again. It doesn't matter if anyone learns anything from it. If it were a deterent, murder would have been a crime of the past centuries ago.
 
 Cons_Lies  12 Aug 2008 01:24
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I think so.
 
 sander  11 Aug 2008 17:59
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It isn't done to show people that killing is wrong. Surely people realise that murdering is wrong already. It is done for justice, because that person has no right and no need to live anymore. Justjay says it best when he talks about the satisfaction and the closure it brings to the victims families. That is the reason, not to tell people murder is a bad thing, we should know this already.
 
 Mosschops  11 Aug 2008 09:40
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 look i'm not religious in any way but taking away the life of a man or woman who took a life is still murder, i think we should just lock them up for 25 years and let the guilt burn inside them, and they would eventually take their own life when they get out because no one would ever look at him/her the same way...the guilt is an even mightier weapon than the hands of god
by  keetonman
 11 Aug 2008 12:32
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Truthfully. When i first heard that, i was like whoa!
We do not execute murderers to show people murder is wrong. We execute people for justice.

If someone brutally raped and murdered your mother, would you want him sitting in jail for the rest of his life BREATHING, sleeping, eating watching T.V., going outside to the yard, having friends. I highly doubt it.

I know id want him DEAD. Id want him off the face of this earth.
And watching him die behind glass, and knowing that HE knows I'm there watching him. Would be satisfaction enough.

And as for what i began with. Yeah the government does not kill people to prove a point. They execute, making sure they can take, what they dish out.
 
 justjay  11 Aug 2008 09:26
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 well put justjay.
by  Scorpion
 12 Aug 2008 00:41
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