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Yes, it's clear he was a con man. For centuries the Vatican has tried to suppress the non-official
Gospels, the so-called Apocrypha, and people have wondered why. The Judas Gospel gives us the
answer. Jesus was a con man. Credit where credit's due, he pulled off the greatest con of all time.
It's amusing to think that, thousands of years later, poor deluded fools continue to revere him as a
god and to carry around physical representations of him on their person.
What's not clear is whether he deliberately gave up his life as the price for eternal fame, or
whether the con was even deeper and he didn't really die at all. The Romans didn't actually kill
Jesus. They just left him on the cross. Did Jesus have some inside men among the guards who would
take him down at a quiet moment and heft a corpse up in his place? That could have been what lay
behind the resurrection scam. Or did he really die and a lookalike was used?
BTW for anyone curious about the Judas Gospel, just type the term into google and you'll see plenty
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I don't know whether this is true or not (and I don't suppose anyone else on this site does either -
including yourself!!). But I'm on this side of the page because I would like it to be true (as an
atheist).
Either way, I'd like to know your sources please, so I can read up on it and draw my own
conclusions? Or is this some homemade fabrication, aimed at stirring the emotions of our religious
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Has David Copperfield made a time machine yet? |
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And of course Judas went out and hanged himself just to help Jesus look more convincing, wow, now
that's a friend for ya, and when the centurian stuck Jesus with the spear and water and blood came
out ( a condition that happens when you DEAD, blood and fluids move to the center of your body) He
also staged that, He had a prostethic stomach put on him like Mrs, Doubtfire and no one noticed...
It was ALL MAKEUP right. |
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Then how do u explain his resurrection? He couldn't have set up all of that because the Romans and
Jews did intend to kill him |
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The Gospel of Judas is a Gnostic work of fiction written around A.D. 180, about 150 years after his
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Jesus didn't start a religion. Man did. |
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It's always rather curious how those inclined to fall for magical conspiracy theories seem
perfectly willing to question the legitimacy of documents used by mainstream historians, scholars
and others, but see no need to subject their own sources to a similarly rigorous vetting. Hidell
appears to accept the Gospel of Judas at face value and notes that it "proves" Christ's status as a
con artist. Yet if, as intelligent human beings, we are to take canonical scriptures with a grain of
salt, how can we simply buy into this alternative text, for which we do not know the identity of its
author?
The notion that Christ knew that he was nothing more than a "magical being" and felt that he had to
go out with a bang, in order to keep up his image after death, is a totally illogical explanation.
Con artists are usually not very inclined to get themselves killed, in order to maintain their lies,
because it offers them no material benefit whatsoever.
Jesus was given ample opportunity to renounce his beliefs and spare himself a gruesome death by
crucifixion. Pontius Pilate pleaded with him to renounce his claims, so that he could be set free.
Yet Jesus was stubbornly unwilling to do so. Had he been a con artist, there would have come a point
where he might have been devious enough to find a way to spare his own life. After all, how
precisely does he benefit by getting himself killed? There is no material reward, just a lengthy and
painful death.
Jesus was human (perhaps even Hidell believes that much) and human beings often act in fairly
predictable ways. You would be hard pressed to find a con artist who willingly runs straight to his
own death for what he knew was nothing more than a lie, unless he was also mentally insane. But this
is not what Hidell argued. |
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I don't believe he was a con man, I believe he was a freedom fighter. They were at that time in
History under occupation from Rome. How do you rouse an army from a beaten population? God,
religion, the Muslim fanatics are still doing it. The Jews of that era were part of the
establishment, it was the disaffected Jesus sought to help, to empower. He was basically a
socialist. For me, more of an inspiration as a human being than as the son of God.
Is that a crazy angle? Or is blind faith?
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Ok so i have no idea where you got this whole Judas thingy from, maybe from the Da vinci code or
something but Jesus Christ was the true Messiah!! And there is no such thing as a book of Judas in
the Bible..ever wondered why?!?!? Well, God only inspired the books that are part of the Bible right
now, the true living Word of God!!! And you know what, with the whole crucifixion, do you realize
that is the worst punishment that has ever happened in history and God sent His only begotten Son,
Jesus Christ, that whosoever believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life-John
3:16.....all you have to do is accept the free gift of salvation to get to heaven, Jesus Christ died
on the cross for your sins and mine, he wasn't a person like Micheal Jackson who changed who he was
so that he could make the headline papers and be known throughout the world. Do you think that a
con artist could heal the blind man or have taken the demons out of Mary Magdalene. Or make the
lame to walk again, i don't think so!! Oh and i don't think a con artist could be barried and then
three days rise again!!! Which is where the Easter story comes into play. Jesus Christ was NOT a
con artist but the Savior of the world and still is!!! |
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As Catholicism is a derivation of older pagan and polytheistic religions, Jesus did nothing to
create a new religion, just reinvent and old one. Also, the accounts of Jesus' life in the bible
were not written until some 40 years after his death so how would Jesus have controlled what his
followers were to write about him after he was dead ( dead again if you believe). The answer is
they didn't, they took older religious texts and stories and changed a few names and places and tada
Catholicism. |
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