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| Jesus Made Predictions Which Didn't Come True, Thus Proving He Wasn't Divine |
| In Matthew 24, Jesus speaks about a great tribulation, seemingly the end of the world. After this tribulation, Jesus says he will return with his angels and gather up "the elect". Then, crucially, he said "This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished". Jesus was predicting the apocalypse, and predicting it would occur within the lifetimes of some who were then alive. Yet clearly this didn't happen. Two thousand years later, Christians still expect the apocalypse to be just around the corner. Jesus got it wrong. He wasn't a god. He was a phoney. |
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Mostly right, except for one thing. Jesus wasn't a phony because he didn't exist. No non biblical
records exist that tell of a man named Jesus christ, therefore making his existence only biblical. |
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It's really ludicrous to see people defending this view when the Bible makes it VERY clear that
they're wrong.
"Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see
the Son of man coming in his kingdom." - Matthew 16:28
"And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which
shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power." - Mark 9:1
"But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they
see the kingdom of God." - Luke 9:27
Jesus also made it clear that the time was coming very soon:
"What I mean, brothers, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as
if they had none; those who mourn, as if they did not; those who are happy, as if they were not;
those who buy something, as if it were not theirs to keep; those who use the things of the world, as
if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away."" - 1 Corinthians
9:29-31
"But the end of all things is at hand: Be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer." - 1 Peter
4:7
Even C.S. Lewis thought it was idiotic, calling it "the most embarrassing verse in the Bible" in The
World’s Last Night and Other Essays. |
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Ah, I love to see the Christians squirm when the falsity of their beliefs is exposed. I love to see
them scrambling for any makeshift explanation which will fill in the gap. Best of all, I love to see
them coming up with completely different and incompatible explanations for why their false doctrine
isn't really a false doctrine.
Maybe it was a translation problem, they say. Or, wait, no maybe "generation" just meant something
other than the plain meaning of the word. Maybe generations lasted for 2000 years back then. Maybe
people lived for 2000 years? ROFL.
Or, wait, no, you've got to examine the context. Funny how there's always a context that makes black
seem like white, isn't it? And this context just always happens to plug a glaring gap in the
christian mythology.
Yes, let's look at the context. It couldn't be clearer.
"32Now from the fig tree learn her parable: When her branch is now become tender, and putteth forth
its leaves, ye know that the summer is nigh; 33even so ye also, when ye see all these things, know
ye that he is nigh, even at the doors. 34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away,
till all these things be accomplished."
He is emphasising the imminence of the event. He is not talking about some distant generation,
thousands of years hence. "He is nigh, even at the doors".
The fact that he said the hour was unknown was irrelevant. He said it would occur within a
generation. It didn't. He was wrong. Therefore he wasn't an omniscient god. He was a fraud.
This debate provides an excellent illustration of how a supernatural belief system can degrade and
corrupt the intellect to an almost infinite extent. There is literally no limit to the extent to
which a cultist will go to justify his belief system in the face of contradictory evidence. Jesus
could have been a serial killer and there could be video evidence of him chopping up his victims and
eating their body parts and the cultists would still find some rationalisation or explanation for
his behaviour. They ignore the plain meaning of words, invent fantasy "contexts", and impute bizarre
meanings to other words. Religion stunts the brain. The evidence couldn't be clearer or more
compelling. |
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Maybe the apocalypse was 1,950 years ago and we just didn’t notice. Sort of a case of over
promotion if you will, which would have all kinds of humorous implications for those waiting with
bated breath for the rapture. |
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When He said "this generation," He meant the generation in which all the tribulations He had
mentioned would occur. And we seem to be heading in that direction now. |
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Also proving he doesn't exist. Funny that |
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WOW our lives are so short compared to Jesus that maybe if you thought about it 2000 years is a very
short time to Jesus and if you opened your eyes you'll see that things are NOT so great and the end
is coming |
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He was referring to the generation when all the bad stuff would be happening all at once. Like now. |
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In order to interpret the bible, you must provide all relevant text that appears before and after
your citation. The debate description only quotes Matthew 24:34. If you go on just two verses down,
you can see that Jesus also said that "of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of
heaven, but the Father alone" (Mt. 24:36). As such, it is clear that there is no set timeline for
the Second Coming; Jesus never announced a deadline.
Additionally, the term "generation" in Mt 24:34 is not used in this ancient biblical context to
refer specifically to people who were alive during or shortly after Christ's time. Jesus is talking
about people who are born in an age which is characterized by the signs that indicate the arrival of
the End Times. As such, if we believe that the contemporary world bears signs of the End Times, as
highlighted by Jesus, then the term "generation" refers to us. It is clear that "this generation"
refers to people who are living in an era that resembles that which was outlined by Christ in the
preceding verses of this chapter. Jesus described the End Times at length in Matthew 24:
4-31--immediately before he started talking about this specific generation. |
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Believe it or not Hidell this is not my cherished belief. It is common knowledge that I gained from
my 9th grade world history class. Furthermore if you had paid any attention to my previous post and
not this edited one, than you would have understood that they could have easily defined a generation
differently. If your going to insult me you should study up, and do it right instead of coming home
from your mediocre job ranting on about what you think you know, trying to sound intelligent. |
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