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It Would Be "Easier" For Everyone If Gays And Lesbians Stayed In The Closet.

It would be dishonest and it would result in abhorrent behavior and unhappiness, but it would be easier for everyone.

innomen

02 Jun 2008 16:25

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A small example would be Larry King's death, an event that would have probably never happened had he not been so loud about his homosexuality (that and him tormenting his shooter).

TyWhyHiTy

23 Jul 2008 04:16

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I would like to respond in red and green to see how these views fly.

View 2--Coming out of the closet is really dangerous to those coming out and to society, therefore, it is easier (and safer) to remain in the closet.

1. Societal acceptance of various sexual relationships and particularly the homosexual relationship, is kind of like putting a penny in the fuse box. It will create "sexual overload" in our culture. Sexual overload will broaden man's desire to have orgasmic fulfillment in all and any variety of relationships he can think of.
2. The same arguments for sexual fulfillment in the homosexual arena can be used for justification of just about any other type of sexual relationship.
3. The purpose of one man one woman in sexual relationship is to help control rampant sexual behavior , which ultimately will lead to destabilization of society. This social control cannot remain if "anything goes" becomes the norm. The outcome will be cataclysmic.

Therefore, it is easier and wiser to stay in the closet.

charlee

03 Jun 2008 22:06

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I guess I can't vote in both columns, so I placed the "red" view under St. Balder's vote in the comment section.

charlee

03 Jun 2008 22:30

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I agree with your comment regarding the forbidden fruit syndrome and my rather inane comment. However, dismissing the sexual overload as nonsense is rather arrogant and cocky.  I think there is good reasons to think this is the case.   A good analogy may be the American diet, when there is too much of something, particularly, unhealthy choices, we tend to overload; not so much difference between worshiping and endless plate full of snack food and an unsatiable appetite for a plate full of sexual "snack food".

I would not agree with the word taboo.  I do not ostracize or prohibit people who choose the homosexual lifestyle. I would recognize all the same  civil rights as in a man and woman relationship, but would be very cautious regarding redefining marriage.  If that is really what you are getting at by it would be easier not to come out of the closet because of the turmoil regarding marriage, then I probably at that level agree.  What is it you really want in changing the definition of marriage?

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Of course it would. That way people wouldn’t have to waste so much of their time discriminating against homosexuals. They could spend that time discriminating against other races or religions instead.

Hizashi

02 Jun 2008 20:09

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Which is just as bad.

kitten

02 Jun 2008 20:57

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I sense bit of homophobia from the agreeing side...maybe some more conservative people should seek EST. (Electro shock therapy) lol

Balance_92

16 Aug 2008 17:38

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No.

How a person has sex is bound to come out into the open somehow. There is really no such thing as a secret.
All things have a way of floating to the surface one way or another.

Authenticism indicates, best to say you orient one way or another right up front: Let others know what way your gate swings.
So no misunderstandings.

Be who you are.

Scorpion

26 Jul 2008 19:42

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How would it be easier? It certainly wouldn't be easier for the person. They would have to be struggling to conceal the fact that they are gay or a lesbian and that would be very depressing for them.

The fact that you say it would be easier worries me, because it shows how much people cannot accept people who are gay. There may not be as much discrimination if it was kept quiet, but I wouldn't like to think that we live in a world where people cannot simply be who they are.

louise23

03 Jun 2008 21:10

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I don't think they should stay in the closet but i don't think they should kiss in the street for the simple fact that try explaining to your kid why two people of the same sex are kissing they don't under stand

kat

03 Jun 2008 19:11

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Nah they would all go mad and die in a hole.

muin13

02 Jun 2008 21:40

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Oh, yeah.

Just like it would be "easier" if women stayed in the kitchen, blacks stayed "in their places", and "those people" (you know who I mean) stayed "over there" in "their own countries".

02 Jun 2008 20:54

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That's pretty much my point.

innomen

02 Jun 2008 21:15

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Why would you want to love someone who's actually gay and hiding is just lying to yourself

stricken36

02 Jun 2008 19:08

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No. Why hide the evidence ? Being gay or lesbian is not a sin nor a sickness. Why try to conceal this simple fact ?

Garamond

02 Jun 2008 19:06

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It would be "easier" for everyone except the gays and lesbians themselves!

OzzieMan

02 Jun 2008 18:34

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It is easier in that it is a softer way. I hesitate to use the word cowardly. It would be pure misery, but it might be easier.

innomen

02 Jun 2008 18:39

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I respectfully disagree. No matter what my opinion is on the gay life style, everyone has a right to live as they please as long as they don't try to make converts out of other people.

pusspuss

02 Jun 2008 16:58

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I think you're pretty safe Pusspuss.

innomen

02 Jun 2008 17:16

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I don't see why, how would that help anyone. I don't like to see two gay people all over each other but then I don't like seeing two straight people all over each other. Why do you say this Innomen, what's your thinking behind it?

StBalders

02 Jun 2008 16:54

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A little bit of devils advocate stuff.

Easier doesn't mean right. Easier can mean going along with the crowd and not risking anything. Easier is often wrong. It would have been easier to be a nazi than to stand up to them. Being true to yourself takes courage and is hard.

innomen

02 Jun 2008 17:01

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I would like to respond in red and green to see how these views fly.

View 1—Everyone is really gay.

1.  The notion that it is natural to be heterosexual and not homosexual is a con.  The con largely began with a middle east tribe some 3000 years ago, making it abhorrent to engage in homosexual behavior, whilst the only acceptable sexual activity was heterosexual, between one man and one woman, in marriage.

2  Let's look at reality.  Orgasmic experience is really one of the highlights of life on earth. Why should this be limited.  Clearly, if we are born male or female, we love our bodies, we have large degrees of self-admiration and narcissism.  Why wouldn't this natural affinity for one's own body and self be the basis for sexual attraction, and therefore lead to same sex preference in our sexual life. Besides, males better understand other male sexual needs, and pleasures. Likewise, females better understand other females sexual desires and needs.

3.   We never see heterophobia, while homophobia is rampant.  What can explain this, other than the natural state of homosexuality being continually repressed and thusly emerging as a phobia, irrational fear and a disease.  It is sort of like society is unaccepting of its true self.

4.  Other cultures seem to have no problem with homosexual relationships.  Look at the Greek and Roman cultures before the radical middle east ethic took over.  Homosexual relationships were the norm, and heterosexual union was largely obligatory for the purpose of procreation.

Therefore, it is not easier to “remain in the closet”.  Coming out of the closet will create the foundation and beginning of awareness of man's true sexual nature.

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I don't think so...but also Gays don't need to make a public address announcement also. Its your business like heterosexuals.

moreno

02 Jun 2008 16:51

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A ban on gay pride parades?

innomen

02 Jun 2008 17:17

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