» Home » The Unknown
It Is Not Possible For God To Be All-Knowing, All-Powerful, And All-Good.
This is an unrealistic description of God that many people of religious background believe in. If God is all-powerful and all-knowing, then he is not all good because of the things that happen on Earth. If he is all-knowing and all-good, then he is not all-powerful for the same reason as above. If God is all-powerful and all-good, then he is not all-knowing because of the same reason. God cannot be all three.
 Damien  28 Jul 2009 17:43
                           (What's this?)  Add to Firefox  RSS
Well articulated. And if He isn't all three, then what the hell is he?
Its a path to madness to try and understand him, and slavery to accept him.
If heaven awaits the good, I have seen as many good aithiests as I have believers. We live in a world where if you are truly trying to do good, then your swimming against "Gods" tide. The religious would call it a test, I call it oppression. It is not so much the good that benifits from mans belief in a God.
 
 2free  01 Aug 2009 02:10
 Add a Comment
 
 
If god were benevolent there would be no discrimination, torture , war, deception, etc.

In addition it is easy to claim something knows everything when you cannot receive an immediate answer when you ask it.
 
 Jeronimo  31 Jul 2009 20:38
 Add a Comment
 
 
I agree, however in nearly all definitions of god or even a god I have seen being or doing that which is not possible is sort of a big part of the whole divine gig.
 
 finsch  29 Jul 2009 20:01
 Add a Comment
 
 
Ah, the excellent Epicurean paradox:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

Epicurus was the mutts nuts.
 
 RustyWater  29 Jul 2009 12:50
 Add a Comment
 
 
Of course it isn't true that God is all knowing, all powerful and all good. If God were all knowing then he would know about all the people who are suffering in this world like the people in Africa for instance! For him to know about that he is either not all powerful or not all kind. If God were kind then he'd try and stop it every way he could and if he were powerful then he would be able to stop it if he wanted to. Therefore because there is still suffering in the world God either doesn't know about it, or can't do anything about it or won't do anything about it.
 
 Emilie  29 Jul 2009 10:20
 Add a Comment
 
 
If you cannot do that, you can be wise.
 
 respire  29 Jul 2009 03:34
 Add a Comment
 
That is such a superficial understanding of God. The existence of evil does not contradict any of the attributes of God. Evil exists as a test. The so-called "problem of evil" is a childish argument. In the same way as a child can't understand the concept of a dentist causing a little pain to prevent much greater pain, some adults can't understand the idea that there is a greater good to all of God's actions. The fact that we don't always see the good doesn't mean there isn't any.
 
 IdeasMan  01 Aug 2009 14:20
 1 Comment
 
 I wouldn't say superficial as I would say simple or even possibly narrow-minded. Semantics, I'm sure. My point being that we're not seeing the good being done, as there is much good being done not only by God, but rather seeing the evil that exists and knowing that if God is all-powerful and all-knowing, that he knows evil exists and has the power to eliminate it.

Now aside from that (and I think this has already been brought up), perhaps we are the creation that God cherishes the most and is allowing us to evolve, hopefully out of our evil ways. I just assumed that God would know how humanity turns out as He is on par with infinity (or is infinity, but that is within another debate on here...heh.)
by  Damien
 03 Aug 2009 18:18
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
My my my some bodys a little sassy pantsss.
 
 my2cents2u  29 Jul 2009 07:17
 Add a Comment
 
 
I don’t think it really matters. If the subject concerns something that people claim no one can comprehend, then attempting to comprehend such a thing while describing a problem with it is ludicrous to the those who say you can’t comprehend it. Besides, I doubt you’re going to get anywhere that way. No matter what contradiction or paradoxical concept you might think up concerning whatever god you can imagine, the response you’re most likely get is something along the line of “God works in mysterious ways”. And there’s no rebuttal to that statement because it’s not really an answer. It just simply means “We’ll never know”. I’d say it’s a dead end road for you on this one. Maybe you should try another, more tangible religious subject?
 
 Hizashi  28 Jul 2009 21:10
 8 Comments
 
 This debate? A dead end? No! ;-) Most religious debates are dead ends; I merely wanted to post this here because it made me stop and think for a moment.
by  Damien
 28 Jul 2009 21:12
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
That's wrong. 3 things have happened since man's initial sin. Noah. Jesus. Return of Jesus.
Two qualify. If you are eager to find out how its possible... Anticipate the 3 option.
 
 gottfried  28 Jul 2009 20:24
 Add a Comment
 
 
God is all knowing--true
God is all powerful--true
God is all good--true

I don't see the problem that evil and suffering can still exist, in spite of the apparent inconsistency.

It simply goes like this: If God is all good and all powerful and all knowing, then evil and suffering wouldn't exist unless God chose to allow it for awhile. Evil and suffering do exist, therefore, God has chosen to allow it for awhile. There is no inherent illogic in the syllogism. One may not like the answer, but that is really up to God, don't you think?
 
 charlee  28 Jul 2009 19:03
 3 Comments
 
 So you're saying that God knows, God is powerful, and God is good...yet turns away from us instead of helping us? So he only chooses to be these three things when he wants to be? Because if he was All-Good, then he would not let evil exist. Choosing to act on being good is not being All-Good, right?
by  Damien
 28 Jul 2009 19:12
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
 
Unless...
This All God wanted to create something in it's own image. Something that is one. To create something other than God.

Quite simple really. Like you are pointing to...for this All God to be, there can't be anything other. It wouldn't be an All "happening".
The "happening" would not be the All. If it's not the "All", then it is going to be screwed up.

But according to the story...the All God did it anyway. According to the story the All God did it because the All God all loved it.

According to the story...there was something in the All that disagreed with the All God and said just what you are saying. To create something other than All proves that All is flawed.

The All God did it anyway and much of the "other" is using itself to say there can't possibly be an All God.

It's all good to me.
 
 justsumguy  28 Jul 2009 18:07
 9 Comments
 
 You mention God creating something in his own image; so you are of the mindset where God is something human, like us? I was just curious because some people believe God to be humanoid, whereas others believe him to be some sort of celestial bodiless entity.
by  Damien
 28 Jul 2009 18:27
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Comment
  
Sign In / Sign Up
 For and Against Recent Activity
Related Debates
Sunday, December 3rd, 2012: End-Of-The-World
If Alien Life Were Discovered, It Would Shatter The Christian Argument.
All's Fair In Love And War Is True
GodisImaginary.com Is A Very, Very, Very, Bad Source.
Jesus Loves You
The Design Theory Is Flawed.
Exams Are Becoming To Scrutenising On The Youth Of Today
The Universe Exists
Evolution Is Real, Dagnabbit!
"The Present" Doesn't Exist
New Debates
Hispanic (or Of Hispanic Origeon)should Be A Race In The Census.
Obama's "townhall" In Ohio Shows What A Political Monster He Really Is.
Legal Gay Marriage Went Into Effect In Washington DC...its Only A Matter Of Time For The Whole Country...
Paper Vs Plastic
Yellow Paint Is Not Called Red Paint, Rigatoni Is Not Called Ziti, And Likewise, Committed Gay Relationships...
Electric Snarbiddles Are Better Than The Old Fashion Manual Kind, Except When You Go On Vacation.
Animals Should Be Allowed To Stay In Entertainment
Being Satisfied Is The Key To Happiness.
Be Wary Of Who You Choose As Your Doctor With Obamacare
People Accuse Religious Folks Of Telling Others How To Live, But Our Government Is Much, Much Worse