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It Is Great That Prop 102 Passes!
Marriage is meant to be a man and women.
 hannahrox2  23 Jan 2009 01:24
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There is no earthy reason two men or two women should get married. There are plenty of men and women who live together all the time they want to, without any certificate. Get real.;-/)
 
 keepmindok  24 Jan 2009 13:03
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 There is an earthly reason why they should be afforded the same rights as everyone else. There may be a couple that don't just want to live together. They may want to raise a child together in a loving home (as opposed to some heterosexual couples who adopt children and horribly abuse them for years). If they want to do this...then they should be afforded the same rights as anyone else who wants to do it. Call it gay marriage as opposed to marriage. That's really tough. It boggles my mind how difficult allowing gay marriages would be. Marriages outside the churches who do not accept gay marriage as being acceptable in the eyes of their god. That's just really tough. I'm such a visionary!!!!! lol
by  justsumguy
 24 Jan 2009 17:45
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I looked up the definition of marriage in multiple places, and it said "the union of two people..." then some other little details, but nothing about marriage having to be between a man and a woman.
 
 mariafu  05 Feb 2009 04:49
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 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/marriage

How about that one?
by  SlyOne
 05 Feb 2009 04:54
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One is not gay in order to find the fact that inequality and discrimination are against human and civil rights in nature: Disrespect, under another cloak.

It is an arbitrary discrimination to boot:
Without basis, for the cause that if you are not yourself gay, then why worry about what others are doing?
If you are not gay, then it not personal: It becomes then just a matter of we all have the right to be treated with respect and human decency.

Why withhold marriage to gays, since more than 55% of all American and possibly more European marriages fail in divorce anyway?
In light of this factoid, does it really matter?

If gays can marry, then they too shall visit the same divorce courts of the Straights.....a doubtful blessing.
 
 ToObserve  03 Feb 2009 03:23
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Is there a reason you find it great to ban homosexual marriage? Will it affect your life in some profound way? I am guessing it will not. The fact is, many of gay and lesbian couples are living together and raising children together. To make their union official will allow those children to benefit. There are tax benefits for married individuals. These people can then get those benefits, which will, in turn benefit their children. Finsch stated it perfectly and justsumguy is being overly generous to the idiots. If the idiots are taught to judge, the idiots need to look in the mirror and ask themselves a very important question. I am going to tell you the question so there can be no misunderstanding. Here it is, for all of you out there that feel the need to judge others, a question that should remain in your minds at all times, especially when you are tempted to judge anyone other than yourself. Go stand in front of a mirror and ask: "Am I perfect? Am I living a life that, beyond ANY doubt, is beyond reproach?" Alright, that was two questions and they were the questions that one can ask if they are not basing their opinion on gay marriage on religious teaching. For those of you out there who are basing your judgement on religion, I have a revised version: "Am I perfect? Am I living a life that, without any doubt, follows scripture and know, for a fact, that I am living to honor God at all times?". Now, justsumguy cannot say that you were not taught. This is by no means an attack on what justsumguy had to say...Just wanted to add that because I value what he says. He demonstrates that he has both intelligence and tolerance. I simply do not want anyone to feel they can get off the hook by feeling they do not know any better.

I am a straight Christian female. I do try my very best to honor God, but I am NOT perfect. I told a lie today. It was a small one, but to God, that does not matter. The fact that it was done to spare my youngest daughter's feelings also does not matter. A lie is a lie. I can go on and name all of the little things that I do that do not honor God, but that is superfluous. I only needed one example. There it is. It is simple and I am certain that most people reading this can find something that, as recent as today, they have done that is against Christian teaching. When one lives in a glass house, one should not throw stones. I am so tired of finding these debates and finding the gross ignorance of society. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Everyone is entitled to have a moral objection. When that moral objection infringes upon the rights of others, I then, feel it necessary to remind people that we all live short of God's Word.

For those who are not Christian or of any religious affiliation, I suspect that your views are simply because you are homophobic. Get over it. Homosexuals do not want every person they see. You are safe. To be homosexual is not to be hypersexual. If you feel you are so desirable that everyone wants you, I guess you have a bigger issue than whether to debate homosexual marriage. Perhaps you suffer from a personality disorder called narcissism.

I do not mean to come across as a b**ch here. I am being as straightforward as I can because I have seen way too many debates around this issue or others that are very similar. I know of no other way to make a point than to be point blank and state the obvious. I am sorry if this offends some or hurts any individuals feelings. I never seek to hurt anyone's feelings. It is my feeling that too many people are obsessing over this and spending too little time addressing their own life.
 
 my2cents2u  28 Jan 2009 20:57
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 That is only 2 cents worth and you didn't address the issues a child might have to deal with;-/) I don't think you have any earthly idea;-/)
by  keepmindok
 29 Jan 2009 08:31
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There's nothing great about it. The issue is so twisted by radical elements (much larger radical elements on the religious side) that the issue does not address the issue.

All that needs to be done is a provision put in place that affords gay couples (it's also a problem with multi-partner heterosexual marriages but like I said, most people know little about the issue) the rights needed to live a life with the same benefits as everyone else.

Anyone against such a thing is being an idiot. Probably due to idiotic teachings (not all their fault).

At the same time, the notion that religions which do not accept homosexuality as being an acceptable form of marriage within their religion, should be forced to conduct marriages for homosexuals is also idiotic. For those who don't know...there have already been lawsuits filed against churches who refused to marry gay couples where gay marriage was legal.

Shaking head...it's a miracle humans can get out of bed in the morning.
 
 justsumguy  24 Jan 2009 17:13
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 It's a miracle some can sleep when they get there;-/)
by  keepmindok
 24 Jan 2009 17:17
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I personally don't think so but I am biased obviously. I'm not familiar with the American constitution but doesn't it state that marriage is a union of two people, it doesn't state gender so with this passing I feel it violates/changes the constitution which should promote pursuit of happiness and equal rights for all people.
 
 kddan  24 Jan 2009 16:52
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.It is my feeling that proposition 102 violates one of the most basic premises of the Constitution which is that every individual should have the freedom to choose there own life as much as is reasonably possible
 
 finsch  24 Jan 2009 14:54
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Why? Is it because they can procreate? Well then, why don't we ban sterile people from becoming married? And if it has to do with religion, why are atheists allowed to get married?
 
 Starburst  24 Jan 2009 02:58
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 Those are two very good points.
by  my2cents2u
 28 Jan 2009 18:22
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No it isn't. Homosexuals have EVERY right to get married. Why does it just have to be man and woman? Is it because God said so? Well, let me ask you this. Ever heard of SEPARATING CHURCH FROM STATE? God is to not interfere with the law.
 
 yu_yevin  23 Jan 2009 23:25
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 lol....did you know there are a lot of marriages conducted in churches?

Do you know the origin of marriage?
by  justsumguy
 24 Jan 2009 17:02
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