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It Is Better To Have Lived Without A Disablement Then To Have Got One Than To Have Been Born That Way.
I don't know the answer to this, it is a philosophical question but there is 2 trains of thought. 1) (which I am stating purely because of the structure of the forum) That at least then you have the memories and experience of living without the disability. Or 2) against the statement for exactly the same reason, but from the viewpoint that you don't know any different so you can't long for something you never had.
 StBalders  03 Oct 2009 19:42
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Experience is everything.
 
 verum  03 Oct 2009 23:47
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Obviously, the best input would be from people who had experience either/or.

But even then, I would imagine the views would not be the same. There are too many variables as to the effects of disability and the circumstances which promote or hinder coping with those disablities.

Personally, I feel exceedingly fortunate to have lived a life free from disability and am currently reduced to slug status because of chronic back pain. I am very glad that I have not lived my entire life hindered by such pain.

Then again, had I been forced to do so, I'm not sure I would trade that life experience but knowing the things I've been able to experience, I have to vote on this side.
 
 justsumguy  03 Oct 2009 19:56
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 cheers J. I know how that feels. The reason I initially came on this site was because I was laid up recovering from a slipped disc. Painful ain't enough to describe it. I doubt it will ever go away entirely. Pilates (sp?) helped.

I have given a more specific example, your comments would be appreciated.
by  StBalders
 03 Oct 2009 20:00
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This is difficult to speculate on because, without having experienced such a situation, it's not easy to place one's self in that position and think about it with any knowledge of what it would be like to live with a serious disability. I'm assuming the disability would be of a more serious nature because, as we age, we all get aches and pains or other conditions that are health related and can change how we live our lives, but not too many people view the aging process as gaining disabilities. I would imagine someone who is born with a disability has learned to adapt and, by the time they reach a certain maturity level, can emotionally cope with having some form of physical disability. There are such extremes in this, but aside from someone who is completely unable to function on their own, many people with physical disabilities are remarkable people who have fought very hard not only to care for themselves, but to go on and pursue an education, a career, raise a family, participate in some form of physical activities and many other things that would be a challenge for some people who are free of any disability.

I think many people would react in the manner that the gentleman in the wheelchair waiting for a miracle is. Too many people focus on the negative that comes their way in life. They seem to become bitter and unable to move forward. Those who accept things the way they are and do all they can to live in the present with their eye on the future are the ones who would probably adapt better.
 
 my2cents2u  07 Oct 2009 16:26
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I suppose it's all in how you look at it. Marginally better in some ways than others by way of of comparison, but not others.

Speaking as someone who has mild cereberal palsy, hydracephalus. And attetion deficit disorder, alongside having a left index finger that was turned into a thumb to compensate for having no bone in my natural thumb I can tell you that it is no walk in the park, but after coming up on 27 years I can definately say that I am definately more acclimated to my disabilities having been born with them than I would be if I were to have become disabled later on.
 
 dlmiller82  04 Oct 2009 00:05
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 thanks Miller. Good response. Tell me, do you find that the hydrocephalus brings with it memory problems, that is often the case. If so do you use particular methods to help with this. Can you give me some examples?
by  StBalders
 04 Oct 2009 12:29
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I will actually disagree with my own statement. The reason I ask is because I work with a guy who had a car crash and now has an Acquired Brain Injury. He finds it near impossible to be happy in any way and his thoughts are entirely taken up with the thought of walking again. To him there is no life without walking. It is extremely unlikely he will ever achieve this without a frame.

I know others who are wheelchair bound but have a very fulfilling life. Walking isn't everything (I am aware that this is easy for an able bodied man to say).

I am encouraging him to discover a life (the accident was 10 years ago when he was 19) anyway, regardless if in another 10 years he manages to walk, and used others as examples of what could be achieved with he right outlook on life. He points to the fact that if he was born with his disability (like most of those that I used as a positive example) he would find it much easier but as he lost his old life he doesn't want another and might as well just sit, miserable waiting for a miracle. I can see his point in so far as the debate topic (not the sitting waiting bit) but am interested in what others think.

For the record a brain injury is far more than being unable to walk and though he doesn't recognise it the walking part is a fraction of the problem. But this is not the basis of the debate at hand. He also has ataxia - look it up - I am too lazy to explain.

You could easily substitute the disability to blindness for the sake of the argument.
 
 StBalders  03 Oct 2009 19:57
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 There is no wrong side on this debate. There are too many variables. A person with the same injury could react in a completely different way.

Blindness is the same. It depends on who you ask.

One of the reasons the guy hates not being able to walk are the memories he has of being able to walk. While these may be holding him back now, I don’t know if he would want those memories erased.
by  justsumguy
 03 Oct 2009 20:38
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