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It Is A Stupid Idea For A Country Trillions Of Dollars In Debt Too Add Guaranteed Health Coverage.
At least our grandkids, who will foot the bill will agree.
 Bugman  17 Jun 2009 18:10
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All that adding forced health care will do is to ensure companies don't hire anyone. Not hiring anyone will throw us into a depression worse that the one that happened in the 20's-30's.
 
 tinseldove  18 Jun 2009 05:24
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 I don't know if I am misunderstanding, but I don't think that it would be up to corporations to provide the insurance coverage. That would not do much for the people who are unemployed or employed only part time who do not qualify for the benefits of a full time employee. I know this is a difficult undertaking at this time, but there are so many changes in healthcare that are necessary at this time. Even those with good coverage have problems if they have a problem such as chronic pain, for example. The medical community is heavily inflenced by not only the government, but also by the different insurance providers and patients now see ads for medication and go to their doctor and try to prescribe for themselves. Doctors are unalbe to practice medicine in the way that they feel is the right way out of fear of lawsuits or other legal action.
by  my2cents2u
 18 Jun 2009 13:39
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Yep. It would take another trillion to add 1/3 of our uncovered people and illegal immigrants to get health care coverage. Roughly 4 Trillion to cover all of them. Know why we haven't simply done it yet? Obama needs permission and cannot easily push this through like all his other spending. 60% of our uncovered are illegal aliens. Another huge chunk makes over 75 grand a year and chooses not to have health care.

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 gottfried  18 Jun 2009 01:54
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 Illegals should have NO RIGHTS to anything except handcuffs and a one way ride home. that would free up a whole load of cash to help those who were born here as well as those who have come here legally.
by  AllOrganic
 18 Jun 2009 02:55
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Although I agree with my2cents2u with the need for healthcare reform I just don't think our fragile economy can take another canyon of debt. Just for an analogy if you're about to get laid off from your job and the bank is about to foreclose your home that's not a good time to declare Jimmy needs braces so let's spend our last dime at the dentist.
 
 Grenache  17 Jun 2009 20:09
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 I do agree with you about the ecomomy, however, I do not understand why we could not find a way to find a standard of care considering the fact that low income families do qualify for state medical assistance and are already having medical expenses covered under the present system. There are programs that both physicians and patients do not know about for vaccines. I know there is a lot of ground to cover, but even a small step forward to begin to coordinate some standard for quality of care woulld be a step in the right direction.
by  my2cents2u
 18 Jun 2009 06:42
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People not dying from preventable and curable diseases and ailments is more important than us being in "debt". Where is your humanity?
 
 wkblev01  18 Jun 2009 01:37
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 Humanity? Where is your humanity with regards to our grandchildren who will have to pay for it. They wont be able to pay for ours and theirs also.
by  Bugman
 18 Jun 2009 10:22
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Access to healthcare for all would be a great Idea compared to( Hmmmm let me see) spending trillions of dollars to murder innocent civilians, as well as our own young men and women dying for no good reason. Maybe the millions spent by pro life lobbyists in washington while 25,000 children die everyday due to starvation and disease. Or even the billions spent supporting other countries and questionable regimes.( Remember the taliban has all those great weapons because our government sent those to them to fight the russians.) How bout the sensless war on drugs which cost billions every year yet there are more drugs now than ever. How bout the billions of dollars used to bail out the banking and car industries?? They should have failed and the Federal reserve should be dissolved...oh federal reserve almost forgot them... A private entity who has sole control over our economy?? The fore fathers warned of this hundreds of years ago yet we let it happen. Don't talk to me about the stupidity of government healthcare until your address the stupidity of the American people first.
 
 AllOrganic  17 Jun 2009 21:33
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 I would have thought more of your statement had you not started with us murdering civilians. Get over that silliness. And you seem to be making the point that we are actually helping the kids by aborting them.

You are right about the American people.
by  Bugman
 17 Jun 2009 23:37
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There is a great need for healthcare reform. There are so many issues with the way the medical system is at the moment. Not only do many people go without routine medical care, there is a lack of knowledge as to how to access the programs that do exist. There are free vaccinations for children, but many doctor's offices do not know about some of the programs and, even when the physicians do participate in the programs, many people in the commuinty have no idea that such programs exist. There is no reason that a child should ever go without vaccines to prevent deadly diseases. Not only do children deserve care, but adults too need medical care and preventative treatment could save a great deal of lives, not to mention the money it saves. There are many social programs that I do not believe in or that I believe need to be seriously regulated and monitored, but where people's health and, actually, their lives depend upon reform, I think that everyone is entitled to the same quality of care regardless of their financial status. There are also benefits to providing quality healthcare to all. There are many people who are disabled with pain. These people are unable to work and be productive members of society. They are viewed as parasites for collecting disability, but they are not able to find a physician to manage their pain because they do not have the insurance coverage to get them to the right doctors. If these people were able to be treated, they could become productive and return to the workforce. Many people live in shame and isolation because pain prevents them from being productive. Mental health is another issue. Time lost at work due to depression, anxiety and other mental illness could be minimized if more people had access to the treatments that can allow them to recieve treatment and return to work more quickly. Instead, they do not get treatment and end up losing their jobs due to frequent missed time and lateness. When someone cannot get up in the morning due to depression, for example, they appear irresponsible. Some employers do offer good insurance benefits, but many do not. Those who work part time or for companies that only pay for a portion of the insurance are going without insurance and are unable to obtain the same quality of care as those who do have insurance. It is not fair that having money is the only way to ensure health and well being.
 
 my2cents2u  17 Jun 2009 20:05
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 13 trillion dollar debt.
by  Bugman
 17 Jun 2009 23:38
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