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Socialism Is Bad
Americans especially hate it even though most don't know what it is and is often times supported indirectly with the abundance of socialistic type programs that are the norm in the US. Cant say much about Europe. I would imagine they don't fear it as much as Americans.
 moreno  30 May 2008 13:20
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On the whole, socialism is horrible. It breeds laziness and dependency.

I will admit there is a time and place for almost every form of gov't. Here is my theory and I think it's pretty good.

Dictatorship - Is perfect for an individual
Communism - Is perfect for a family
Socialism - Is great for a small group of people who have a similar interest. A neighbourhood is a good example. So is a church.
Democracy - Is perfect for an entire country of dictators who are looking out for the best interest of their commune and who are also contributing to the betterment of their community.
Capitalism - Along side democracy is the only way to ensure that dictators have an opportunity to take care of their communes and communities.

So, while socialism is horrible at an organized gov't level, it is perfect for a small group of people with a common cause.
 
 Cons_Lies  20 Aug 2008 02:13
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I am all for Capitalism.
Not Socialism.
 
 Scorpion  29 Jul 2008 00:54
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Used to, social services were provided by the church but that left out the poor atheist and agnostics who had no one to be their friend in a time of need. I guess we need some of the social services but the US has been paying the poor to stay poor and it's pathetic and needs to stop! I think we just got to a point where it went too far. Now we have a society who has been trained to be completely dependent upon government - which is even MORE pathetic.
 
 momof3  30 May 2008 20:27
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Yes the democratic party started moving toward socialism 50 or so years ago. Socialism calls for a huge government, and actually did well in Sweden, but now with the influx of immigrants, their government has changed and isn't so good anymore. Socialistic government are very expensive, and the people of those countries pay huge taxes, Americans wont go for that.
 
 stever  30 May 2008 19:50
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 30 to 36% isn't a lot of tax for Americans? I think so.
by  moreno
 30 May 2008 20:09
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Mr Spock once said that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Socialism could be characterized as the desire to spread freedom around more evenly - and not just make it something which relates to wealth or privilege. In this regard I'm all for socialism.
 
 Oswy  30 May 2008 13:57
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 You posted on the wrong side.
by  Cons_Lies
 20 Aug 2008 02:03
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Socialism is absolutely not "bad." In fact, we use it effectively in many ways right here. Our fire departments, police departments, military, and some water utilities are socialized. We all pay for them, because we all understand that we need them. This is the guiding principle.

Capitalism is terrific for creating competition, which in turn creates diverse products and spurs improvement. Yet, there are realms where capitalism is harmful. Imagine having private fire departments. If you can't see the problems there, you aren't thinking hard enough. Socialism should be applied to those areas that we all can agree that we need, and especially where profit creates negative incentives.

Things I believe fall under this umbrella: BASIC (I stress basic because undoubtedly someone will try to claim I'm advocating that the government pay for your ice cream) food, water, shelter, and health care services, as well as education and general well-being (this would be your fire, police, military). We actually already do most of these things, but certain areas need to be improved, most specifically health care and education.
 
 Ambrose  23 Dec 2009 11:30
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No I don't think socialism is a bad thing, if not taken too far. Lots of people seem to confuse it with communism and the USSR - its like saying Democracy is bad because the Weimar Republic failed.
Here in Britain, socialism has given us the thing we can be most proud of - the NHS. The ideal that nobody should suffer because they don't have money is incredibly powerful.
Nationalisation also gave us the BBC, and British Rail - far more efficient than often remembered.

One very important complaint against socialism - that it takes money away from the hard working rich and gives it to the lazy poor. You may have noticed the trouble here - the poor aren't all lazy; the rich aren't all hard working. The socialist ideal I aspire to is that nobody should be disadvantaged by misfortune - whether being born into a poor family, being sacked unfairly, and so on. The only way this can happen is if the rich pay their fair share, and the poor pay less.

If taken too far, as I said, socialism doesn't work. The nationalisation of industry is, on the whole, a bad thing in my opinion, except when the service that industry supplies is vital to the country or the people. However, if taken too far, capitalism is equally as bad. That's why even in the States there's a general admittance that (for example) poor people who can't afford health care should at least have SOME help - even if this thought isn't taken to its logical, socialist, conclusion.
 
 joseph2166  26 Oct 2008 01:46
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 I think that was well put. Their needs to be a balance.
by  2free
 26 Oct 2008 01:02
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Most of the major theories of government and/or society have positive aspects but few actually function well if taken to the extreme. Socialism I think should definitely help characterize the nature of any number of public works without necessarily being the driving economic function behind society. There are no true socialisms, capitalisms, democracies, or communisms in the world, no matter what they may call themselves, there are only government and economic bureaucracies that lean towards one or more ideal and functionality.
 
 finsch  19 Jul 2008 21:44
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 what kind of public works?
by  the_atom
 31 Jul 2008 21:12
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I wouldn't say socialism is bad but there are many concepts i don't agree with. The main one being its desire to shape all areas of the public and its strong association with interventionism. Socialism fears the people and so tries to control them, clearly gives priority to the workers, does not believe in being materially rewarded for hard work, and ignores individual value and enterprise.
 
 Kirsty08  19 Jul 2008 21:23
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No socialism is not bad, I do not no much about the American governmental system but in the UK it has done brilliantly things all socialism is, is something like a welfare sate like Britain, we have the NHS which pays for peoples medical bills poor or rich which makes peoples lives much easier.
 
 hecker  30 May 2008 15:53
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