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 Tomcat  29 Jan 2017 13:15
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No, its NOT TOO EXTREME. Calling it too extreme would be an understatement. The blacklisted nations had no prior records of terror against the States. One may say that this is a way to ensure that they don't do so in the future. But in order to ensure that law abiding citizens continue to do so, you met out a more stringent punishment to the outlaws instead of giving a first-hand experience of the penalties to the lawful ones.
 
 Madman  09 Mar 2017 11:14
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 Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; thank you for giving me another opportunity to tell the world what a worthless piece of shiite you and your lowlife, unregenerate, reprobate friends are!

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends wouldn't be reading this if you didn't respond to me or make debates that referenced me!

You can send John Jay Jaster a personal email at john_jaster@yahoo.com or you can contact John Jay Jaster at work through the Human Resources Department at john.jaster@sanofi-aventis.com

If you are in the Boston area, you can see John Jay Jaster at work by stopping at Sanofi-Aventis which is located at 270 Albany St, Cambridge, Massachusetts. John Jaster’s phone number at work is 617-679-5600.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; without any justification, you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends have called me a bunch of smear names such as; racist, homophobic, sexist, fascist, hateful, intolerant, mean-spirited, divisive, inflexible, bigoted, idiot, moron, etc., that the Liberals love to use when they have lost the debate.

Meanwhile, I have only spoken the truth about you when I say that your are an adulterer, a reprobate, and have no absolutes or principles in your life.

All of you worthless, lowlife reprobates voted TWO TIMES for Bathhouse Barry Obozo so it's no mystery that you would have friends who are worthless, lowlife reprobates.

You have more in common with a porn addicted, spouse-swapping, fat lesbian like Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn and her fat, clown faced, "really good friend" Damselfly aka Joanna.

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn sent me a picture of herself in a blue dress that looked like someone tried to stuff 300 pounds of shiite in a 200 pound blue sack. Gross, really gross!!!

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn, your lover, Moreno Cubanito, needs you to save his failing YickYak website!!!

You always say that your husband, Michael Horn the runt, doesn't mind sharing you with other guys and gals. You always say that you and the runt enjoy watching porn, have an "open marriage," and that he encourages spouse-swapping and your bisexuality because that doubles his chances for some extra action.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn said you committed adultery by boinking her fat, married, "really good friend", Damselfly aka Joanna when she visited America.

Since you have so much in common with those two worthless, lowlife reprobates, I cannot understand why any of you worthless, lowlife reprobates would waste your time talking to me.

God weeps for all worthless, lowlife reprobates who will not turn from their sin.

Jeremiah 13:17
17. But if you will not hear it, my soul will weep in secret for your pride; my eyes will weep bitterly and run down with tears,

As a Christian, I am under no obligation to present the gospel to reprobates who will just make fun of the gospel. A Christian should not give what is holy to those who do not appreciate it. Animals such as dogs and hogs cannot appreciate the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 7:6
6. "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

All of us are sinners to one degree or another and all of us have a daily battle with the temptation to sin. Some people have an almost irresistible desire to steal things. Psychiatrists call these people “kleptomaniacs” but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Some people are genetically or psychologically predisposed to be addicted to alcohol or drugs and, in order to quit, sometimes they have to be hospitalized and endure terrible withdrawal symptoms, but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Sexual orientation and acts of perversion cannot be conflated with a race of people created by the Lord. In Jeremiah 13:23, the question is asked: "Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?" Of course, the answer is no. Just by an act of their free will, no one is able to change the color of their skin but every year thousands and thousands of homosexuals use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. In short, genetics loads the gun but free will pulls the trigger. Sodomites, Sodomettes, pedophiles, and bestialists have to continually use their free will to say no to their sin just like everyone else. When you say no to sin – any sin – and keep saying no without giving in to the temptation, you build up spiritual muscle and the temptation to sin becomes less and less.

1 Corinthians 6:9
9. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators (Greek – pornos – general sexual sin), nor idolaters, nor adulterers (Greek – moichos – sexual intercourse between someone who is married and someone to whom that that person is not married), nor homosexuals (Greek – malakos – efffeminate, a passive partner, a male prostitute, a soft one, a boy or an adult male), nor Sodomites (Greek – arsenokoites – males who defile themselves with other men, an active partner, a male who has sex with an efffeminate male),
10. nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
18. Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
by  AR454
 23 Nov 2017 14:02
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I'll randomly jump in here...lol.

I do think the ban is too extreme. If you'll remember, Obama--with the approval of Congress--signed his travel ban, it was due to a terrorist attack from two Iraqi refugees in Kentucky. And it was a very specific ban --a single type of visa was targeted. Green card holders and those who had visas, not to mention refugees who had already applied were not affected. If it had been a full-stop ban for 6 months, no refugees from Iraq would have been admitted into the U.S., and while there was a slowing of refugees from Iraq into the U.S., it never completely stopped.

Fast forward to Trump, who full-on bans seven countries for 90 days--Syria indefinitely I believe--based on a campaign promise. There has been no evidence to suggest that accepting refugees into the U.S. Makes us any less safe. Banning everyone in such a way not only makes it easier for ISIS/IL to do whatever it is they want to do, but it leaves refugees stranded in war-torn countries where they could die.

And all because Trump says the vetting process needs to be extra-vetty. Please. The vetting process is quite stringent as is. If he wanted to add another layer to the vetting process for refugees coming in from these seven countries, fine--whatever floats your boat. But you don't full-stop refugees that are trying to flee their country because you feel unsafe or believe that the U.S. Is somehow unsafe for taking these people in.
 
 Damien  02 Feb 2017 19:59
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 I think the ban has to be extreme to give more time in inventing a far more stringent security check!
by  Tomcat
 03 Feb 2017 16:23
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Absolutely too extreme!
 
 Listen  01 Feb 2017 11:58
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 In what way?
by  OD
 01 Feb 2017 15:27
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Trump is protecting the American people by his ban!
 
 Tomcat  31 Jan 2017 11:21
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 Once again, you voted on the wrong side. Voting this side agrees with the statement that the ban is too extreme.
by  OD
 31 Jan 2017 16:39
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Yes, since it is showing Trump's fear against ISIS and also the very scary threat of terror attacks in the USA.
 
 Spacerock  31 Jan 2017 10:55
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 How is that a bad thing? ISIS are nasty people, we should all be scared of them.
by  OD
 31 Jan 2017 16:39
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Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; thank you for giving me another opportunity to tell the world what a worthless piece of shiite you and your lowlife, unregenerate, reprobate friends are!

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends wouldn't be reading this if you didn't respond to me or make debates that referenced me!

You can send John Jay Jaster a personal email at john_jaster@yahoo.com or you can contact John Jay Jaster at work through the Human Resources Department at john.jaster@sanofi-aventis.com

If you are in the Boston area, you can see John Jay Jaster at work by stopping at Sanofi-Aventis which is located at 270 Albany St, Cambridge, Massachusetts. John Jaster’s phone number at work is 617-679-5600.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; without any justification, you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends have called me a bunch of smear names such as; racist, homophobic, sexist, fascist, hateful, intolerant, mean-spirited, divisive, inflexible, bigoted, idiot, moron, etc., that the Liberals love to use when they have lost the debate.

Meanwhile, I have only spoken the truth about you when I say that your are an adulterer, a reprobate, and have no absolutes or principles in your life.

All of you worthless, lowlife reprobates voted TWO TIMES for Bathhouse Barry Obozo so it's no mystery that you would have friends who are worthless, lowlife reprobates.

You have more in common with a porn addicted, spouse-swapping, fat lesbian like Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn and her fat, clown faced, "really good friend" Damselfly aka Joanna.

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn sent me a picture of herself in a blue dress that looked like someone tried to stuff 300 pounds of shiite in a 200 pound blue sack. Gross, really gross!!!

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn, your lover, Moreno Cubanito, needs you to save his failing YickYak website!!!

You always say that your husband, Michael Horn the runt, doesn't mind sharing you with other guys and gals. You always say that you and the runt enjoy watching porn, have an "open marriage," and that he encourages spouse-swapping and your bisexuality because that doubles his chances for some extra action.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn said you committed adultery by boinking her fat, married, "really good friend", Damselfly aka Joanna when she visited America.

Since you have so much in common with those two worthless, lowlife reprobates, I cannot understand why any of you worthless, lowlife reprobates would waste your time talking to me.

God weeps for all worthless, lowlife reprobates who will not turn from their sin.

Jeremiah 13:17
17. But if you will not hear it, my soul will weep in secret for your pride; my eyes will weep bitterly and run down with tears,

As a Christian, I am under no obligation to present the gospel to reprobates who will just make fun of the gospel. A Christian should not give what is holy to those who do not appreciate it. Animals such as dogs and hogs cannot appreciate the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 7:6
6. "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

All of us are sinners to one degree or another and all of us have a daily battle with the temptation to sin. Some people have an almost irresistible desire to steal things. Psychiatrists call these people “kleptomaniacs” but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Some people are genetically or psychologically predisposed to be addicted to alcohol or drugs and, in order to quit, sometimes they have to be hospitalized and endure terrible withdrawal symptoms, but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Sexual orientation and acts of perversion cannot be conflated with a race of people created by the Lord. In Jeremiah 13:23, the question is asked: "Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?" Of course, the answer is no. Just by an act of their free will, no one is able to change the color of their skin but every year thousands and thousands of homosexuals use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. In short, genetics loads the gun but free will pulls the trigger. Sodomites, Sodomettes, pedophiles, and bestialists have to continually use their free will to say no to their sin just like everyone else. When you say no to sin – any sin – and keep saying no without giving in to the temptation, you build up spiritual muscle and the temptation to sin becomes less and less.

1 Corinthians 6:9
9. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators (Greek – pornos – general sexual sin), nor idolaters, nor adulterers (Greek – moichos – sexual intercourse between someone who is married and someone to whom that that person is not married), nor homosexuals (Greek – malakos – efffeminate, a passive partner, a male prostitute, a soft one, a boy or an adult male), nor Sodomites (Greek – arsenokoites – males who defile themselves with other men, an active partner, a male who has sex with an efffeminate male),
10. Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
18. Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
 
 AR454  23 Nov 2017 14:02
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 Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; thank you for giving me another opportunity to tell the world what a worthless piece of shiite you and your lowlife, unregenerate, reprobate friends are!

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends wouldn't be reading this if you didn't respond to me or make debates that referenced me!

You can send John Jay Jaster a personal email at john_jaster@yahoo.com or you can contact John Jay Jaster at work through the Human Resources Department at john.jaster@sanofi-aventis.com

If you are in the Boston area, you can see John Jay Jaster at work by stopping at Sanofi-Aventis which is located at 270 Albany St, Cambridge, Massachusetts. John Jaster’s phone number at work is 617-679-5600.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; without any justification, you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends have called me a bunch of smear names such as; racist, homophobic, sexist, fascist, hateful, intolerant, mean-spirited, divisive, inflexible, bigoted, idiot, moron, etc., that the Liberals love to use when they have lost the debate.

Meanwhile, I have only spoken the truth about you when I say that your are an adulterer, a reprobate, and have no absolutes or principles in your life.

All of you worthless, lowlife reprobates voted TWO TIMES for Bathhouse Barry Obozo so it's no mystery that you would have friends who are worthless, lowlife reprobates.

You have more in common with a porn addicted, spouse-swapping, fat lesbian like Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn and her fat, clown faced, "really good friend" Damselfly aka Joanna.

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn sent me a picture of herself in a blue dress that looked like someone tried to stuff 300 pounds of shiite in a 200 pound blue sack. Gross, really gross!!!

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn, your lover, Moreno Cubanito, needs you to save his failing YickYak website!!!

You always say that your husband, Michael Horn the runt, doesn't mind sharing you with other guys and gals. You always say that you and the runt enjoy watching porn, have an "open marriage," and that he encourages spouse-swapping and your bisexuality because that doubles his chances for some extra action.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn said you committed adultery by boinking her fat, married, "really good friend", Damselfly aka Joanna when she visited America.

Since you have so much in common with those two worthless, lowlife reprobates, I cannot understand why any of you worthless, lowlife reprobates would waste your time talking to me.

God weeps for all worthless, lowlife reprobates who will not turn from their sin.

Jeremiah 13:17
17. But if you will not hear it, my soul will weep in secret for your pride; my eyes will weep bitterly and run down with tears,

As a Christian, I am under no obligation to present the gospel to reprobates who will just make fun of the gospel. A Christian should not give what is holy to those who do not appreciate it. Animals such as dogs and hogs cannot appreciate the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 7:6
6. "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

All of us are sinners to one degree or another and all of us have a daily battle with the temptation to sin. Some people have an almost irresistible desire to steal things. Psychiatrists call these people “kleptomaniacs” but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Some people are genetically or psychologically predisposed to be addicted to alcohol or drugs and, in order to quit, sometimes they have to be hospitalized and endure terrible withdrawal symptoms, but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Sexual orientation and acts of perversion cannot be conflated with a race of people created by the Lord. In Jeremiah 13:23, the question is asked: "Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?" Of course, the answer is no. Just by an act of their free will, no one is able to change the color of their skin but every year thousands and thousands of homosexuals use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. In short, genetics loads the gun but free will pulls the trigger. Sodomites, Sodomettes, pedophiles, and bestialists have to continually use their free will to say no to their sin just like everyone else. When you say no to sin – any sin – and keep saying no without giving in to the temptation, you build up spiritual muscle and the temptation to sin becomes less and less.

1 Corinthians 6:9
9. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators (Greek – pornos – general sexual sin), nor idolaters, nor adulterers (Greek – moichos – sexual intercourse between someone who is married and someone to whom that that person is not married), nor homosexuals (Greek – malakos – efffeminate, a passive partner, a male prostitute, a soft one, a boy or an adult male), nor Sodomites (Greek – arsenokoites – males who defile themselves with other men, an active partner, a male who has sex with an efffeminate male),
10. nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
18. Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
by  AR454
 23 Nov 2017 14:02
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I am for and against it. I do feel that terrorism is a problem and travel should be better protected. Granted an American is more likely to die from an American than a terrorist. It does not minimize the problem that must be fixed. Obama did the same thing in during his presidency. I feel that travel should be better monitored and protected. However, a full on ban right now is not needed. It won't eliminate future problems. We need a better long term fix. Instead of something that will just temporarily rid travel.
 
 NurseBSN  07 Feb 2017 14:41
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 I think that's exactly what Donald Trump is doing clamping down while they find a better long term fix???
by  Tomcat
 08 Feb 2017 17:28
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I think the ban is justified under the present circumstances.
 
 OD  31 Jan 2017 16:40
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