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Britain Is Not On Its Way To Becoming A Police State
I don't think it is, some people do. Is it just the media making something out of nothing? Interested in hearing your opinions.
 sensai80  21 Jun 2008 20:01
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I agree. The aspect of this that confuses me is the fact that multiple pundits are stating that Britain is going to become a police state while they are not claiming that China or other growingly dominant nations are not.
Britain without doubt is not creating major controversies as China is. And Britain simply doesn't have the mass growth of China, both economically and military-wise.
However, a majority of experts lean towards America as a current police state and the nation that will remain the police state for several years to come.
 
 ZJerry  21 Jun 2008 20:10
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The Brits are already disarmed and are already "subjects" rather than citizens.
 
 BroWinter  22 Jun 2008 04:14
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 By that logic Britain has been a police state for decades. Not every country sees civilian gun ownership as a human right.
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 22 Jun 2008 08:38
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Under the Blair and Bush regimes, both Britain and America, but particularly America, have seen the legal infrastructure of a police state put in place. When you have a situation when the government can simply grab a citizen off the street, throw him into a dungeon without charging him with a crime or presenting any evidence against him, indeed without legal process of any kind; without even notifying his relatives; then you have a police state already created. That is what exists now in America.

Whether the powers of the police state are fully utilised or not is another matter. But once you agreed to let the infrastructure be put in place, then you are dependent on the goodwill of the people in power. One of the noble principles articulated by America's Founding Fathers was that the country should have a "government of laws, not of men", meaning that the rules of conduct, and the limitations on them, should be expressly defined; that citizens should not be dependent on the whims of those in power and should not have to hope that the rulers would be good and just. That they would sometimes not be good and just should be assumed and, therefore, their proper conduct should be assured by a system of institutional checks and balances which would limit abuses of power and bring them to light.

American right-wingers are often happy to sign these principles away. They say, well I'm not a terrorist and I don't believe our gubmint would abuse its powers, so if Bush wants to spy on our phone calls without any checks or balances, that's alright with me.

In Britain, we have seen the institution of "thought crimes". The offence of "glorifying terrorism" was introduced. A girl was charged with writing poetry about suicide bombers. Many historical events still celebrated today could be construed as terrorism. Take American's July 4 independence day celebrations, for example. The American rebels could have been construed as terrorists once. Many modern nations came into being through violence that could be construed as terrorism. Should we arrest all these foreign nationals in Britain when they celebrate the independence of their countries?
 
 Hidell  22 Jun 2008 01:54
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