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In An Evolutionary Sense Humans Could Be Completely Irrelevant.
We may hold the monopoly of power over this planet but we are merely products of millions of years of evolution, of nature deciding who should be the dominant species of this planet. Nature and evolution could in the near future decide to replace us with a new species, one that will go on to achieve far more than we could. And also compared to some creatures our time on this planet is miniscule, look at the dinosaurs, if it hadn't been for the asteroid they could have continued to be the dominant species.
 kddan  26 Sep 2009 10:44
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In an evolutionary sense (I assume we're speaking of the physical human while discounting any relevence of that which sets humans apart from all other things we know of in the universe) humans are all but absolutely irrelevent.

The window that is allowing humans to live on this planet is quite small. The earth goes through cataclysmic changes that do not allow sustaining of human life.

Even if a few humans found ways to sustain themselves through those inevitable changes, the earth itself will lose the engine that sustains it. Then there's the sun inevitably going through it's changes which will end all pretention on this planet.

So humans have to get off this planet. Problem is, the universe is an extremely violent place where changes can instantly change entire galaxies. Those changes can come from very far distances and arrive in a matter of seconds.

But even though humans don't live 2 centuries, and even though everything they know of ends (for all practical purposes), they have the unique influx of possibilty. The odds don't matter. They always have the slightest portion of an odd.

So, even though their physical reality is all but absolutely irrelevant, they cling to it's relevence. They call it reality. They actually argue about it in an effort to enforce it's reality.

They will even say that irrelevance can be reality. Heck, they will even argue to support that argument. Lol

Happens all the time on here. I find it downright hilarious. At least it produces real comedy.
 
 justsumguy  26 Sep 2009 14:57
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 Wow coupled with Grenache bringing up the insect argument and you bringing up the evolutionary possibility of the universe it makes us seem even more irrelevant. We in the universe are like the tiniest, most pathetic speck imaginable. Quite humbling when you see it like that.
by  kddan
 26 Sep 2009 20:21
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Sure. It's our own hubris when we declare ourselves at the top of the evolutionary pyramid anyway. Based on what standard? Insects for example are greater in number, variety, total biomass, and adaptability, and many can kill or incapacitate us with ease. And of course nature can shake things up at any time for any living creatures.
 
 Grenache  26 Sep 2009 12:27
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 Well I think the religious created the belief that we are supreme and everyone else followed suite.
by  moreno
 28 Sep 2009 02:51
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We could be. We are too much a plague upon the face of the earth. It has caused too much damage on earth. Too much an impact to be irrelevant and eliminating many of the animals.
 
 gottfried  27 Sep 2009 03:30
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 The Earth has survived much more damaging threats than people. It’ll be fine.
by  Hizashi
 27 Sep 2009 22:32
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What is the relevance of evolution?
 
 moreno  27 Sep 2009 01:08
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In an evolutionary sense, humans are quite relevant as of this point in time. We possess the capability to influence not only our environment but the state of our entire planet along with the condition of every living organism on it (a feat no other species on Earth has ever come close to accomplishing). Fairly soon, within a matter of decades most likely, that level of influence will grow to encompass the conditions of other planets and celestial bodies within our solar system. Think about the amount of technological advances that took place from the 1900s to the year 2000. Now, picture that type of drastic change in technology happening again within the next century and the one after it. It’s not going to stop unless we become extinct. As technology rises, our influence on Earth, on this solar system, on this universe, will continue to increase along with it. And as our influence of said things expands, so will the human species. To other planets, moons, solar systems, and maybe even galaxies. I don’t know about you, but from an evolutionary standpoint, that’s quite an achievement considering the fact that the biological goal of all life is to reproduce in order to sustain the species. So, if we're judging the relevance of people by looking through the eyes of evolution, I disagree with the debate. Though we’ve only been on this planet for a short period of time, humans play far too great a role on this planet for them to be irrelevant from an evolutionary perspective.
 
 Hizashi  27 Sep 2009 00:15
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 If it is all about reproducing, roaches and rats got us beat.
by  moreno
 27 Sep 2009 01:05
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Evolution is a lie, if things happen it is because God is allowing them to happen. There is no evolution, it is a made up idea to get thick people like you to follow it. You are irrelevant for being a queer, non christian and a believer in evolution, same goes for the rest that are like you.
 
 godfighter  26 Sep 2009 15:42
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 Well...for some unknown reason God is allowing you to happen. I guess we'll just have to learn to laugh at it.

I wonder if you ever laugh. How about a smile? You ever smile? Maybe when you were a kid?

Something bad happen in your life? Somebody molested? Count yourself lucky.

Have you had a boy die? I have. Have you had a little girl taken, raped and killed? Some people have. Those evil heterosexuals and the things they do.

I’m starting to think we’re supposed to feel sorry for you. Forget it. You’re going to have to come up with something more than a kid being molested to make me feel sorry for you.

I'm just wondering, how does it feel to know everyone thinks you are a disgusting wretch and homosexuals are infinitely better people that you are?
by  justsumguy
 26 Sep 2009 16:58
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