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In A Democratic Society, Felons Ought To Retain The Right To Vote.
(The 08,09 Topic For L.D.) Felons ought to retain the right to vote because there human and by them being in prison they are learning that by breaking the law that a bad result will happen and were also taking there human rights away as stated in the Constitution.
 jhs_debate  18 Nov 2008 17:53
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My teacher's son is a convicted felon. The only thing he did to get time in prison is hit a button that said send because the higher-ups asked him to do so. They forged a government signature without his knowledge in order to get more money from the government. Thinking he was doing the right thing, he is the one that faxed the paper, and is now sitting in prison, a convicted felon. He is a perfectly good guy, and they took advantage of that to have him serving time for their crimes. The point is, when we take away all voting rights to felons, we are taking away rights to people that don't deserve to have their rights taken away, like my friend. When we hear the term convicted felon, we often generalize them to be murders or rapists. This usually isn't the case. They are still required to follow our laws, they are still required to comply with our government, they still pay taxes, they should still have the right to vote.
 
 Ryan  08 Dec 2008 14:52
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 Yeah, that's what they tell you anyhow. People don't sit in prison for being someone else's pawn, sorry.
by  Cephus
 08 Dec 2008 15:59
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Otherwise the government could make felonies that targeted a specific political party and effectively end that party's political prominence.
 
 ur_wrong  20 Nov 2008 00:11
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Felons should be allowed to vote so that policy makers are inclined to be accountable when it comes to prisons and prisoner care. The abuses that occur in U.S. Prisons goes on because prisoners are so dehumanized and disenfranchised. They have little if any advocacy. Prisoners become victims of the crimes of a system that is all about politics and money. Politicians want to look tough on crime to the point of nonsense, and everyone wants to save money and so rationalize treating humans like animals. Having the vote might make policy makers think twice about these disenfranchised people. The irony is so many politicians are criminals in one way or another themselves.
 
 kkcoyne  19 Nov 2008 18:55
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It sounds fair to me that in a democracy every adult citizen gets to vote.
 
 Grenache  19 Nov 2008 15:41
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I think it is right for them to vote and in Great Britain that is now the case. When the were not allowed the vote I think it was not so much part of punishment but loss of privileges.
In Britain now a-days there is no such thing as loss of privileges... They even let bank robbers out to rob banks.
 
 keepmindok  19 Nov 2008 09:00
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I do ld to, i think they should if they have served their time.
 
 n-stein8_  18 Nov 2008 18:27
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 This LD topic is not that good.
by  jhs_debate
 18 Nov 2008 23:55
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I agree, though not for the constitution reason.

In western democracies it is vital that we start from the standpoint of giving everyone the vote. We then withdraw this privilege from only one group of people - those who we don't believe capable of using it. This is why the young can't vote, or the insane. With a few honourable exceptions which are insignificant due to their size (Peers in the House of Lords in the UK for example, can't vote) this is the only reason we have withdrawn the right to vote. The only abuse of this system is by taking away the right of prisoners to vote. We have no reason to assume they are not of sane mind, so we should allow them to vote.

I defy anyone to come up with a substantial group who are prevented from voting for a reason other than mental capacity than prisoners. It is my belief that they do not exist, so felons should be allowed to vote in order to complete the logic of the system.

(That was all a bit long-winded, sorry)
 
 Quincel  18 Nov 2008 18:17
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 Thanks for your vote
by  jhs_debate
 18 Nov 2008 23:54
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Gradually, society is being corrupted not by the immoral thoughts of ambitious men but by the so-called "nice-guys" who are fighting to make the world "a better place".
However, slowly, what is wrong is being less punsihed. The death sentence has been removed in a number of countries, the sentences for felons are becoming less harsh and people are simply issued warnings for immense misconducts.
This is simply not assisting the world's advancement though. World peace is not a pragmatic thing and attempting to achieve this goal is merely excacerbating the situation.
The proposal you have made, if it goes through, will have major negative repurcussions that you may not recognise; everything appears perfect in theory but most things never have the success they were intended to have.
And we cannot afford a rise in crimes as offenders obtain more rights and priveleges. They enjoy free food, shelter and entertainment while working, law-abiding citizens must worry every day about the financial crisis. This is not fair. The costs for breaking the law are decreasing drastically and this should not be happening if people want crimes to stop.
 
 ZJerry  05 Dec 2008 01:34
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When one is in prison, they lose their rights. That includes their right to vote. They have enough creature comforts that make me angry enough, without giving them the right that we, as taxpayers and law abiding citizens have.
 
 my2cents2u  20 Nov 2008 04:12
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