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If There's A Hell As Well As A Religious Criteria For Avoiding It Then Most People Are Destined To Go To Hell
No single religion accounts for even half the world population so if only one is the right way to avoid hell then mathematically most are doomed. And most people just practice whatever they were born into without ever seriously studying alernatives. And before you religious-types geefully declare this is right consider the implications. Did you really study every other belief? Do you really think almost everyone around you deserves eternal torture? Would you be happy looking down from heaven and seeing almost everyone brutalized?
 Grenache  25 Sep 2010 07:38
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Well, that's how it works. It's unfortunate that so many are going there, but that's just how it is.
 
 higa123  05 Dec 2013 10:11
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 Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; thank you for giving me another opportunity to tell the world what a worthless piece of shiite you and your lowlife, unregenerate, reprobate friends are!

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends wouldn't be reading this if you didn't respond to me or make debates that referenced me!

You can send John Jay Jaster a personal email at john_jaster@yahoo.com or you can contact John Jay Jaster at work through the Human Resources Department at john.jaster@sanofi-aventis.com

If you are in the Boston area, you can see John Jay Jaster at work by stopping at Sanofi-Aventis which is located at 270 Albany St, Cambridge, Massachusetts. John Jaster’s phone number at work is 617-679-5600.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; without any justification, you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends have called me a bunch of smear names such as; racist, homophobic, sexist, fascist, hateful, intolerant, mean-spirited, divisive, inflexible, bigoted, idiot, moron, etc., that the Liberals love to use when they have lost the debate.

Meanwhile, I have only spoken the truth about you when I say that your are an adulterer, a reprobate, and have no absolutes or principles in your life.

All of you worthless, lowlife reprobates voted TWO TIMES for Bathhouse Barry Obozo so it's no mystery that you would have friends who are worthless, lowlife reprobates.

You have more in common with a porn addicted, spouse-swapping, fat lesbian like Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn and her fat, clown faced, "really good friend" Damselfly aka Joanna.

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn sent me a picture of herself in a blue dress that looked like someone tried to stuff 300 pounds of shiite in a 200 pound blue sack. Gross, really gross!!!

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn, your lover, Moreno Cubanito, needs you to save his failing YickYak website!!!

You always say that your husband, Michael Horn the runt, doesn't mind sharing you with other guys and gals. You always say that you and the runt enjoy watching porn, have an "open marriage," and that he encourages spouse-swapping and your bisexuality because that doubles his chances for some extra action.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn said you committed adultery by boinking her fat, married, "really good friend", Damselfly aka Joanna when she visited America.

Since you have so much in common with those two worthless, lowlife reprobates, I cannot understand why any of you worthless, lowlife reprobates would waste your time talking to me.

God weeps for all worthless, lowlife reprobates who will not turn from their sin.

Jeremiah 13:17
17. But if you will not hear it, my soul will weep in secret for your pride; my eyes will weep bitterly and run down with tears,

As a Christian, I am under no obligation to present the gospel to reprobates who will just make fun of the gospel. A Christian should not give what is holy to those who do not appreciate it. Animals such as dogs and hogs cannot appreciate the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 7:6
6. "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

All of us are sinners to one degree or another and all of us have a daily battle with the temptation to sin. Some people have an almost irresistible desire to steal things. Psychiatrists call these people “kleptomaniacs” but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Some people are genetically or psychologically predisposed to be addicted to alcohol or drugs and, in order to quit, sometimes they have to be hospitalized and endure terrible withdrawal symptoms, but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Sexual orientation and acts of perversion cannot be conflated with a race of people created by the Lord. In Jeremiah 13:23, the question is asked: "Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?" Of course, the answer is no. Just by an act of their free will, no one is able to change the color of their skin but every year thousands and thousands of homosexuals use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. In short, genetics loads the gun but free will pulls the trigger. Sodomites, Sodomettes, pedophiles, and bestialists have to continually use their free will to say no to their sin just like everyone else. When you say no to sin – any sin – and keep saying no without giving in to the temptation, you build up spiritual muscle and the temptation to sin becomes less and less.

1 Corinthians 6:9
9. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators (Greek – pornos – general sexual sin), nor idolaters, nor adulterers (Greek – moichos – sexual intercourse between someone who is married and someone to whom that that person is not married), nor homosexuals (Greek – malakos – efffeminate, a passive partner, a male prostitute, a soft one, a boy or an adult male), nor Sodomites (Greek – arsenokoites – males who defile themselves with other men, an active partner, a male who has sex with an efffeminate male),
10. nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
18. Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
by  AR454
 13 Sep 2017 22:30
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I don't think most people are "destined" to go to hell, because it is always conceivable that a majority of the world could revert to Christianity through free will. However, I do agree that as it stands, more people will go to hell than will not go to hell based upon the current belief systems of non-Christians.
 
 jburg6  28 Sep 2010 14:25
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 Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; thank you for giving me another opportunity to tell the world what a worthless piece of shiite you and your lowlife, unregenerate, reprobate friends are!

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends wouldn't be reading this if you didn't respond to me or make debates that referenced me!

You can send John Jay Jaster a personal email at john_jaster@yahoo.com or you can contact John Jay Jaster at work through the Human Resources Department at john.jaster@sanofi-aventis.com

If you are in the Boston area, you can see John Jay Jaster at work by stopping at Sanofi-Aventis which is located at 270 Albany St, Cambridge, Massachusetts. John Jaster’s phone number at work is 617-679-5600.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; without any justification, you and your worthless, lowlife, reprobate friends have called me a bunch of smear names such as; racist, homophobic, sexist, fascist, hateful, intolerant, mean-spirited, divisive, inflexible, bigoted, idiot, moron, etc., that the Liberals love to use when they have lost the debate.

Meanwhile, I have only spoken the truth about you when I say that your are an adulterer, a reprobate, and have no absolutes or principles in your life.

All of you worthless, lowlife reprobates voted TWO TIMES for Bathhouse Barry Obozo so it's no mystery that you would have friends who are worthless, lowlife reprobates.

You have more in common with a porn addicted, spouse-swapping, fat lesbian like Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn and her fat, clown faced, "really good friend" Damselfly aka Joanna.

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn sent me a picture of herself in a blue dress that looked like someone tried to stuff 300 pounds of shiite in a 200 pound blue sack. Gross, really gross!!!

Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn, your lover, Moreno Cubanito, needs you to save his failing YickYak website!!!

You always say that your husband, Michael Horn the runt, doesn't mind sharing you with other guys and gals. You always say that you and the runt enjoy watching porn, have an "open marriage," and that he encourages spouse-swapping and your bisexuality because that doubles his chances for some extra action.

Grenache aka Grand Cru aka John Jay Jaster; Artemis aka SkankOpotamus aka Cynthia Horn said you committed adultery by boinking her fat, married, "really good friend", Damselfly aka Joanna when she visited America.

Since you have so much in common with those two worthless, lowlife reprobates, I cannot understand why any of you worthless, lowlife reprobates would waste your time talking to me.

God weeps for all worthless, lowlife reprobates who will not turn from their sin.

Jeremiah 13:17
17. But if you will not hear it, my soul will weep in secret for your pride; my eyes will weep bitterly and run down with tears,

As a Christian, I am under no obligation to present the gospel to reprobates who will just make fun of the gospel. A Christian should not give what is holy to those who do not appreciate it. Animals such as dogs and hogs cannot appreciate the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 7:6
6. "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

All of us are sinners to one degree or another and all of us have a daily battle with the temptation to sin. Some people have an almost irresistible desire to steal things. Psychiatrists call these people “kleptomaniacs” but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Some people are genetically or psychologically predisposed to be addicted to alcohol or drugs and, in order to quit, sometimes they have to be hospitalized and endure terrible withdrawal symptoms, but the Lord still requires that they use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. Sexual orientation and acts of perversion cannot be conflated with a race of people created by the Lord. In Jeremiah 13:23, the question is asked: "Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?" Of course, the answer is no. Just by an act of their free will, no one is able to change the color of their skin but every year thousands and thousands of homosexuals use their free will to say no to their sin and turn toward the Lord. In short, genetics loads the gun but free will pulls the trigger. Sodomites, Sodomettes, pedophiles, and bestialists have to continually use their free will to say no to their sin just like everyone else. When you say no to sin – any sin – and keep saying no without giving in to the temptation, you build up spiritual muscle and the temptation to sin becomes less and less.

1 Corinthians 6:9
9. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators (Greek – pornos – general sexual sin), nor idolaters, nor adulterers (Greek – moichos – sexual intercourse between someone who is married and someone to whom that that person is not married), nor homosexuals (Greek – malakos – efffeminate, a passive partner, a male prostitute, a soft one, a boy or an adult male), nor Sodomites (Greek – arsenokoites – males who defile themselves with other men, an active partner, a male who has sex with an efffeminate male),
10. nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
18. Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
by  AR454
 13 Sep 2017 22:31
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Any god that would allow a "hell" and "eternal suffering" to exist, when he has the power to stop it, is an evil god. I refuse to submit to an evil entitiy. I would rather suffer for eternity with the good people who resist this monster than to spend eternity bowing and kissing his as s.
 
 Ballsalsa  25 Sep 2010 23:31
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 Perhaps God is evil in your mind. A person is going to believe what they want to believe. However, you can't say that evil to you is the same as evil to someone else.
by  jburg6
 28 Sep 2010 14:23
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Unfortunately, this is true.

God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked.

Ezekiel 33:11
11. “As I live,” says the Lord God, “I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die,”

Jeremiah 13:13
17. But if you will not hear it, my soul will weep in secret for your pride; my eyes will weep bitterly and run down with tears,

Isaiah 55:6
6. Seek the Lord while He may be found, call upon Him while He is near.
7. Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the Lord, and He will have mercy on him;
 
 AR454  25 Sep 2010 11:06
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 Unfortunately, many people are going to be with the big crowd on the broad way but only a few will squeeze through the narrow gate.

Matthew 7:13
13. "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.
14. "Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

If you don’t choose to follow Jesus Christ through the narrow gate but choose to follow the many people on the broad way, any religion or no religion will get you to the same destination … Hell. Unlike today’s televangelists, when Jesus preached to the multitudes, many walked with Him no more.

John 6:66
66. From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.

His disciples were concerned that so few were being saved. Jesus wasn’t able to build a mega-church because it was too difficult to enter His church … the gate was too narrow. Anyone who wanted to enter Christ’s Church was going to have to strip down and, with much difficulty, squeeze through the gate with just their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and leave all their self-righteous baggage behind.

Luke 13:22
22. And He went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.
23. Then one said to Him, "Lord, are there few who are saved?'' And He said to them,
24. "Strive (Greek - agonizesthe - agonize, struggle, contend as with an adversary, labor fervently) to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.
by  AR454
 25 Sep 2010 11:07
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I personally favour Judaism too, because thanks to Adolf's cull, the latest generation has been the absolute fittest and best
 
 damselfly  25 Sep 2010 10:06
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I have studied Buddhism, perks of Islam, which got complicated after 9/11, philosophy, Wicca, etc. I personally favor Judaism. I don't think heaveners will see hell. That's the point of heaven.

How about prostitution. It's wrong? Or is it? There are children in slums raised to think prostitution is good as a means to provide for the family. Would a false belief be such as this? You don't quite see what I see when I view religion. Maybe you do with prostitutes? I am looking for common ground here...
 
 gottfried  25 Sep 2010 09:49
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There is no hell only karma.
 
 artemis  25 Sep 2010 13:51
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 Is your name "Earl"?
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 26 Sep 2010 09:07
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Since we are talking about one choice out of the literally thousands of versions of hell that us humans of come up with we are left with many choices. I liked Justsomeguy's (JSG) version where Jesus had paid for everybody's sins. I mean let's be frank here if we are accepting the idea of God for the sake of this argument, then I have to assume that god is at least faintly competent at the deity thing. In which case it is hard for me to accept that they/s/he/it would purposely put together a system with a 99% failure rate. That, to me, is just the usual elitist crud that people always want to believe about themselves. And if your trying to sell a religion that would be the route in with a lot of people. But would this deity really be indulging the psychotic and childish revenge urges of a few people; or would this deity be attempting to do what's best for all humankind?
 
 finsch  25 Sep 2010 13:06
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 I agree with you finsch. I sort of wanted the people voting "For" to have to confront the fact their belief means they're writing off the majority of other people in the world. It's disturbing how easy it is for people to do that, as well as how gleefully they follow a god or religion which set up a system with more failures and eternal suffering than successes.
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 26 Sep 2010 09:06
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