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| If A Tree Crashes To The Ground, But No One And Nothing Is Around To Hear It, It Still Makes A Sound |
| I'm using this old proverb to introduce a more in depth debate; the perception of existence. Does something exist because we experience it, or is it there regardless? Science states that even though no one's around to hear it, the tree still makes a sound due to the vibration of air etc, but looking at it in an abstract way, how can it exist if no one is there to hear it and acknowledge it? |
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Reason tells us that when physical matter of weight falls it makes noise. Whether anyone is present
is beside the point of FACT. |
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If a tree falls in the woods, it makes a sound regardless whether anyone or thing is present. Unless
of course the area becomes a vacuum where sound cannot take place, put if that was the case, then
the tree wouldn't fall, lol. XD |
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It does make a sound. |
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I have a 6 year old nephew who’s a pretty smart kid. Well the other day he came and asked me a
variant of that question. “How do I know people don’t disappear when I’m not looking at
them?” So I told him to turn around and then I smacked him on the back of the head. But seriously
if nothing exists except when observed then that means the act of our observation is actually
creating the world. Which I think makes us all gods. Either that or there is a really big and
talented stage crew that goes along in front of us crafting reality just before we get there and
another rolling it back up after we go. I’m going to go with it exists separate of observation, or
perhaps at its most basic level energy and matter observe themselves. |
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I believe it does. But I think if you experience something it doesn't necessarily mean it exists.
For all we know everything we see or witness is completely unreal and created in our mind. What if
there is actually only one person in this entire world and he is creating us in his mind and we all
are just a figment of his imagination. |
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Yes it does. The alternative is for me to lose my grip on sanity so I will cut through the
philosophical stuff to arrive at this frame of mind. Any other way of thinking means that it is
possible that you are not even reading this, and I have not even written it. That is too much for
my tiny mind to bother to comprehend and ultimately pointless. |
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The only way to prove existence is by experiencing something, or recording it. If nothing
experiences something, it can not be proven to exist.
But if you're getting that technical, nothing can be proven to exist, except 'I think therefore I
am'.
Something can exist just as well whether or not there is something sensing it. But the proof of
existence changes. |
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05 Aug 2008 18:38
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